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Topic: Charles Clegg Gowers: Look-up, please (Read 234 times)
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emmsthheight
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Hi
Looks as if you;ve come up trumps again on familysearch!
Where were the children christened by the way?
I'msorry I forgot to label the last census 1861. I've changed it and also taken the extra s out of Alan's surname.
By the way' do you think we have the originbs of the term loggerheads there? Even if not, some of these houses must have been quite strife ridden at times.
I'll look at 51 which I think is what we need next.
Best wishes
Emms
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Hi
Looks like we crossed without it even telling me. That's useful!
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Hi
They're the ones, already in Spotland by 1851. Huge family. List coming up eventually!
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Hi
1851
HO107 /2247
Spotland, Whitworth and Brandwood
Maslwood?
John Gowers Head, M, 57, Joiner Suffolk Needham
Matilda do Wife, M, 56, do Fressingfield
do do daur u 27 Power weaver cotton do do
Jane do do u 26 do do do do do
William do son u 23 Joiner do do
George do do u 22 Cotton carder do do
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James Gowers son 21  overlocker do do
Margaret do dau 19 power weaver cotton do do
Henry do son 17 app mechanic dp do
Allen do son 14 Writer in a solicitor's office do do
William Henry gson Clark gson 9 Scholar Middlesex Bethnal Green
George Clark gson 6 do do do
Wow! That was a mouthful! I think it's right. Gowers almost looks like Jones.
Some of these are not easy to read and almost misleading.
Which makes me wonder, about the Jones's I posted erlier, so I'll look again.
Also, if any one has a moment to look at the bits that are hardest to read, please feel free. The Fressingfield was written with the long double "S" a bit like Ess set in German, so it looks like "ff".
I'll look at 1941 too.
Best wishes
Emms
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Hi,
1841 They're at Gregory Fold, Whalley - never heard of it but I love the name!
I'd love to have met Matilda. She must have been soome strong lady to have all those children and still have been going wll into her seventies, and it looks as if she had a good hand in bringing up a fair few others too!
I wonder how old she was when she died and where she'd buried? I wonder what happened to the parents who died, too? I used to think it would be deseases but we've found a coupke of accidents in Lancashire.
I looked at the Jones's but as they were from Denbighshire, it's probably right but I'll check.
1841 coming upp!
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Hi again, 1841 as promised!
Ho 107/ 508 /18
Gregory Fold
John Gower 45 not born in county
Matilda ,, 42 ,,
John ,, 19 ,,
Matilda ,, 17 ,,
Jane ,, 15 ,,
William ,, 14 ,,
George ,, 11 ,,
James ,, 10 ,,
Harriet ,, 8 ,,
Henry ,, 7 ,,
Allen ,, 5 ,,
Hi
Looks like they'd not been in the area long, and no work mentioned for any of them. Most of the surrounding families seem to be invoved in cloth/mechanic type trades.
I hope this helps.
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Hi,
I've been back to 'Familysearch'. The children were all christened in Fressingfield, BUT
also listed are
Louisa chr. 1817, Maria 1819, Elizabeth 1826. Presumably they had all left home by 1841. So that makes 13 (I think). Matilda was indeed some lady! Also, I wonder where Margaret was in 1841. She is listed as 19 in 1851.
One more thing - 'Free BMD' has Frederick b. and d. 1835, Ellen b. and d. 1837, Lavinia b. 1839 d. 1840, Alfred b.1841 d. 1842. They were all registered in Haslingden.
I wonder if they were also Matilda's?
Now I want to do the female lines. Maybe you'll help when you have time? Please!
Thanks again, Vaison.
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Ellison/Rogers/Pilkington/Wood(s)Moss/Mawdsley/Keegin (Keegan,Keagan,Keegen)
Orange/Morrisroe/Webster/Hoole/Shaw/Hague/Herbert
Hurt/Turner/Dean
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Hi Vaison
Thank you for coming back with all those. I love to get the extra detail. I'll have a think about all of those. I wonder why they moved up north? Was it the hope of better work? The mills after farming provided for less men.
I wonder if some one would do you a lookup for that marriage? It's too early for a GRO certificate. I'd love to know what his occupation was before and what was happening. I wonder if i can find any family down there in 1841?
Yes, you're welcome to some help with the other lines. I nearly looked up some of the others but there are people who are only interested in the male line - me, I want to know everything!
I'll keep you posted!
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Hi
Looking at Elizabeth W West next:
No clear candidate for 1891 - none of them gave Preston as a birth place.
So I went to 1881, amd I'm pretty sure this is them.
RG11/4235
Preston Park, 37 Meadow St
John West, Head, m , 43, Stonemason, b Lancashire Stonyhurst
Alice C do , Wife, m, 37 do Preston
Adeline M do Dau, u, 18 , Milliner & dressmaker do Ashton
Elizabeth W do Dau, 10, Scholar do Preston
Joseph do Son 3 do do
I wonder if there were other children, or another marrige with those spread ages?
I'll see what else I can find.
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Hi again!
I found Alice a widow with children in 1891 using Joseph to search on:
RG 12/3441
Preston
1 Lithgoe Place
Alice C West Head Wid 44 , , b Lancaster, Preston
Adeline do Daur S 25? , , do Aston on Ribble
Joseph do Son 12 , Clerk , do Preston
Ignatius do Son 8 , Scholar , do do
James Lancaster Bdr M 56 ,Clerk , do Lostock
Peter Churnside Bdr S 37 Pattern maker , do Preston
I wonder if either of the boarders are related and I wonder from that info if you'll need to look in some RC Parishes.
I'll see what else I can dig up.
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Hi
1871 wasn't as quick, but a lucky break when I found it!
See what you think!
I started by looking or Adeline, when John & Alice weren't obvious in the index. Not there Now we can see why. Any offers for where she fits in? Then I saw John as Son in law and also Eliza 6m.
Here goes!
1871 RG 10/4202
Preston 8 St Mary St?
Elizabeth Miller, Head, Mar,54? Can't be 511!)Mechanics wife, Lancs Catforth
Elizabeth do Dau un 24 Cotton winder do Blackburn
Mary do do ,, 21 do do do do
Ellen do do ,, 16 do do do do
Adeline M do Gdau ,, 8 Scholar do Ashton
John West son in law mar 32 Stonemason do Hurst Green
Alice do Daur mar 27 do Preston
Joseph do GSon 4 Scholar do Preston
Mary Amelia do Gdau 2 do Preston
E Winifred do ,, 6m do do
I'll let you digest that little lot before I chuck any more at you!"
Best wishes
Emms
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