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Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« on: Friday 04 July 08 21:35 BST (UK) »

HiYall  Grin

Looking for the following family in 1901 Possibly Hulme, Manchester

1891 shows:  Class: RG12/3195; Folio 135- Page 27
Hulme St George, Sykes Street, Manchester

Edward Twentyman aged 33 (c1858) Born Hulme, Plasterer
Wife Annie Twentyman aged 31 (c1860) Born Hulme, Braid ??
Dau Elizabeth A aged 12 born 1878 Scholar,( married  Daniel Heathcote 1900)
Son Willie aged 10, born  c1881 Hulme
Dau Jane aged 8 born c1884 Hulme
Son Frederick aged 3 born 1888 Hulme.


Elizabeth married Daniel Heathcote at St Michaels Hulme 1900 - can't find them either  Undecided

Need help please Grin

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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 July 08 12:16 BST (UK) »

Hi Jan

Horribly mistranscribed  Lips Sealed

1901 census, Hulme - 27 Lord Street
RG 13/3707 folio 12 pg 16

Edward Twentymen; boarder; widower; 44; plaster; Manchester
Jennie? do; boarder; single; 18; rag sorter; Manchester
Fred do; boarder; 14; errand boy port; Manchester
Thomas do; boarder; 6; Manchester

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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed- COMPLETE THANKS!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 July 08 12:37 BST (UK) »

Hiyall  Kiss

thanks Sandra - don't think i would have ever found them under Turntymen   Grin

This gives me more to go on

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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!
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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 July 08 15:09 BST (UK) »

Well done sandra C  Smiley Smiley Smiley
Could this be a death for Annie
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
Deaths Mar 1900 
Twentyman    Annie    39    Chorlton    8c   693
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Pallent Suffolk

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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 July 08 17:15 BST (UK) »

Thanks Irret!   Kiss
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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!
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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 July 08 19:23 BST (UK) »

Hi Jan,

From Soldiers Died in Great War

Fred. Twentyman
18th Battalion,  Manchester Regiment
Private    No. 202990
Born - Manchester
Enlisted - Manchester
Killed in Action - 31 July 1917
Theatre of War - France & Flanders


also from the 1927 Manchester directory

Edward Twentyman      11 Stamford St, Hulme

Harry Twentyman       31 Lime Grove, Old Trafford

Hope this helps

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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 July 08 19:31 BST (UK) »

Thanks Dave  Grin

Any Heathcotes in the 1927 Directory? In particular daniel, George, William, Frances

George's war record has him residing off Deansgate Manchester, his wife Frances was a liscensed broker. Grin

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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 July 08 19:44 BST (UK) »

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1627207
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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 July 08 19:47 BST (UK) »

Do You reckon its a different Frederick Irret?
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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!
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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 July 08 19:50 BST (UK) »

Yes because it states son of Mr S Twentyman? But it is same ref number that Dave found so I think we can rule that one out. Embarrassed
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William Walker Glasgow
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 05 July 08 19:54 BST (UK) »

On FreeBMD there is only 1 Fred Twentyman born around that date  Undecided
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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!
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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 05 July 08 20:47 BST (UK) »

HI Jan

In the 1927 directory, there are only the following

HEATHCOTE

William       Compositor        52 Woodbine St, Salford
William       Taxi Driver          32 Kelstern Square, Rusholme

George Edward     9 French Barn Lane, Blackley

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 05 July 08 20:50 BST (UK) »

Thanks Dave  Grin  These are both 'mine'

Cheers Kiss
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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!
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Re: Twentyman in 1901 - Help Needed
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 05 July 08 21:12 BST (UK) »

Hi Jan

This may be another of yours

St Wilfred R. C. Church, Hulme.   Marriages 1844 - 1916

 25 April 1903
Groom - James Burns of 22 Lord St, son of Jacob

Bride - Joan ? Twentyman of 45 Ann St, dau of Edward

Witnesses - Peter Taylor of 3 Pitt St
                    Maria Ann Dilmore of 21 Easton St

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 05 July 08 21:24 BST (UK) »

Hi dave

MMMM............. interesting - could be - needs more investigating  Roll Eyes  Any Heathcotes around the same time  Tongue

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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!
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