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joppo1968
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4th GGrandfather Joseph Boultbee (1758-1821)
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Attached is a marriage in 1696 in Currie, Midlothian between Alexander Anderstone & Jean Law...I was hoping I could get some assistance in translating it?
Cheers,
Mike.
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Jopson, Jubb, Beardsworth, Boultbee, Byard, Dowling, Harrison, Fist, Huxtable, Hammant, McNab, Nicholls, Offor, Morgan, Walters, Wise, Staffordshire, Lancashire, London, Sussex, Cheshire, Berkshire, Kent, Westmorland, Tasmania, Sheffield, Devonport, Victoria, NSW
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Joyful
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November 8th '96
Alexander Andersone and Joan Law both in this [parish] contract[ed] and consigned there ........in your hand of James Anderson Elder
and were proclaimed ... us 3 several Lord Surro....... and nothing objected to hinder your purpose and therefore would marry
... .. ... 3rd of December.
Best I can do as well
Joy
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Anderson R&C & Orkney, Jack, Patience, Hood R&C, McVicar Argll & Glasgow, Gourlay Glasgow, Docherty Glasgow, McNicol Argyll, Leask Orkney, Cumming Okney,
Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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Henry7
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This is the best I can make of it:
"Novr 8th 96
Alexr Andersone and Jean Law both in this were content
ed consigned there pounds in the hands of James Andersone Elder
And were proclaimed wt us 3 several Lords successively xxx
nothing objected to hinder there purpose and therefore were married
wt us the 3d of December"
The letter 'E' written backwards is a bit of a trap!
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Little Nell
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I agree generally but would also suggest the following:
"....3 several Lords Successively.... "
"....to hinder the purpose and therefore were married...."
Nell
Sorry Henry - didn't see your post. 
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mitchell
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I can add...."consigned there pawns..."
pawn meant "pledge of good behaviour by a betrothed couple, usually a sum of money deposited with the Kirk Session"
Elaine
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Mitchell, Turner, Henderson, Archibald, Smith, Walker, Burgess, Alexander, Margetts, Joss - Aberdeenshire Proctor, Morrison, Henderson, Burgess, McWilliam, Green, Grant, Young, Dey, Allan - Banffshire Proctor, Logie, Grant - Moray McRae - Ross & Cromarty and Invernesshire Clunie, Philp - Fife Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk |
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Henry7
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That's brilliant Elaine! 
Yep, it certainly looks like "pawnes" to me too, now.
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joppo1968
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4th GGrandfather Joseph Boultbee (1758-1821)
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You've all done really well, so pats on backs all around Emjay, Nell, Henry Joy & Elaine 
Regards,
Mike.
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Jopson, Jubb, Beardsworth, Boultbee, Byard, Dowling, Harrison, Fist, Huxtable, Hammant, McNab, Nicholls, Offor, Morgan, Walters, Wise, Staffordshire, Lancashire, London, Sussex, Cheshire, Berkshire, Kent, Westmorland, Tasmania, Sheffield, Devonport, Victoria, NSW
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joppo1968
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4th GGrandfather Joseph Boultbee (1758-1821)
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Thanks for that Harry...you're probably right re: old Minister, rather than a Clerk etc. Appreciate it 
Mike.
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Jopson, Jubb, Beardsworth, Boultbee, Byard, Dowling, Harrison, Fist, Huxtable, Hammant, McNab, Nicholls, Offor, Morgan, Walters, Wise, Staffordshire, Lancashire, London, Sussex, Cheshire, Berkshire, Kent, Westmorland, Tasmania, Sheffield, Devonport, Victoria, NSW
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hdw
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It's also possible of course that James Anderson the kirk elder was related to the bridegroom Alexander Anderson.
Harry
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joppo1968
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4th GGrandfather Joseph Boultbee (1758-1821)
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Yep, that's 100% correct Harry, as I already had James as Alexander's father on my tree. It's funny 'cause the spelling of the surname on my tree is "Anderson" but this entry from Scotlandspeople is "Andersone." I guess like all surnames the evolve over time. E.g My surname Jopson was most probably Jobson & given it's ancestry goes back to Scandernavian, who knows what it was back then
Thanks again everyone!
Mike.
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Jopson, Jubb, Beardsworth, Boultbee, Byard, Dowling, Harrison, Fist, Huxtable, Hammant, McNab, Nicholls, Offor, Morgan, Walters, Wise, Staffordshire, Lancashire, London, Sussex, Cheshire, Berkshire, Kent, Westmorland, Tasmania, Sheffield, Devonport, Victoria, NSW
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hdw
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Don't worry about an extra e on the end of a surname, Mike. That was a common practice, and it don't mean a thing. Sometimes, in fact, it's just an ornamental flourish after the last letter in the name which has been interpreted as an e.
Harry
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joppo1968
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Thanks for that Harry, I guess everyone has the right to add a little "flourish" to their life, even if it is just to a name Makes it look French hey?
Cheers,
Mike.
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Jopson, Jubb, Beardsworth, Boultbee, Byard, Dowling, Harrison, Fist, Huxtable, Hammant, McNab, Nicholls, Offor, Morgan, Walters, Wise, Staffordshire, Lancashire, London, Sussex, Cheshire, Berkshire, Kent, Westmorland, Tasmania, Sheffield, Devonport, Victoria, NSW
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Henry7
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The terminal 'e' (e.g. on 'Andersone') is common enough in old writing before spelling was as regular as it is now. Still seen where something is meant to look old and quaint, such as the shop sign "Ye Olde Antique Shoppe".
Looking hard, with the benefit of the work of the other contributors, the passage seems to read:
Alexr Andersone and Jean Law both in this were contract
ed consigned there pawnes in the hands of James Andersone Elder
And were proclaimed wt us 3 several Lords successively and
nothing objected to hinder thre purpose and threfore were marr[xxx]
wt us the 3d of December
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