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Lookup Richard Hall Lancashire to Alabama 1886
« on: Saturday 05 July 08 11:12 BST (UK) »

Hi

I have census records for my ancestor Richard Hall from his birth in Stanningley, Yorkshire in c1866 up to 1881 when he was living with his family in Bolton, Lancashire aged 15.  After that he disappears from the English records.  I Googled his name as a last resort and came up with this from the cemetery at Marion, Alabama.

'Richard Hall, 1865-1940, b. Stanningley, Yorkshire, England, came to America 1886, vice-pres. Judson College, 1914-1925, minister, teacher'.


I'd love to know if this is my Richard and if anyone knows any more info about him, ie US census returns.

Thanks.

Stephanie
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Hall: Great Eccleston; Elswick; Bolton, Lancs
Pye: Goosnargh; Preston; Wyresdale, Lancs
Robinson: Goosnargh; Barnacre; Lancs
Clegg: Barnacre; Goosnargh; Wyresdale, Lancs
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Re: Lookup Richard Hall Lancashire to Alabama 1886
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 July 08 12:21 BST (UK) »

To start with, I found a passport application for Richard Hall of Judson College dated 1922 and he states his father's name as James and that he is deceased. Finding your guy on the 1871, it has his father as James, so there is a very good lead in the right direction. I have found some census records for him I'm happy to share, if you think this is your guy.

Kath
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Re: Lookup Richard Hall Lancashire to Alabama 1886
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 July 08 12:26 BST (UK) »

OK, I am never very patient and can't wait for a response, so I googled and came up with this link:

http://books.google.com/books?id=nkoUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA728&lpg=PA728&dq=%22Richard+hall%22+stanningley&source=web&ots=3yZypA7L1K&sig=4s8lxLf8oXB0d-Tj6snNBm_MnyY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result

This most definitely sounds like your Richard Hall. What a great little bio to have on an ancestor.

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
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Re: Lookup Richard Hall Lancashire to Alabama 1886
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 July 08 12:57 BST (UK) »

Hi Kath

Many, many thanks for that.  I'd love to look at the census returns too.  I can't believe that this is where Richard ended up!  He started out helping his father James in their grocer's shop in Bolton, Lancashire. 

Stephanie
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Hall: Great Eccleston; Elswick; Bolton, Lancs
Pye: Goosnargh; Preston; Wyresdale, Lancs
Robinson: Goosnargh; Barnacre; Lancs
Clegg: Barnacre; Goosnargh; Wyresdale, Lancs
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Re: Lookup Richard Hall Lancashire to Alabama 1886
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 July 08 13:46 BST (UK) »

I am so glad it's the right guy. With a name like Richard Hall, who knew what you would be able to find out, but that bio explains it all.  Smiley

So, here are the census records for him:

1900, Florence, Lauderdale, Alabama
Hall, Richard, b. July 1865, 34, married 7 years, b. England, parents Eng, immigrated 1886, in country 14 years, naturalized, Baptist preacher
Margaret, wife, b. Sept 1864, 35, married 7 years, 3 children, 3 living, b. Alabama, father North Caroline, mother Alabama
Eleanor, daughter, b. Aug 1894, 5, b. Tennessee
Joseph, son, b. March 1896, 4, b. Tennessee
Elizabeth, daughter, b. Oct 1899, b. Alabama

1910, Evergreen, Conecuh, Alabama

Hall, Richard, 44, married 17 years, minister at a Baptist Church
Margarette, wife, 45, married 17 years, 4 children, 2 living
Eleanor T, daughter, 15
Joseph P.T., son, 14
Mary E., daughter, 6, b. Alabama

1920, Marion, Perry, Alabama

Hall, Richard, 54, teacher, college
Margaret, wife, 55
Eleanor T, daughter, 25
Mary Ellis, daughter, 15

1930, Rome, Floyd, Georgia

He is a roomer in the home of Arthur Talmidge
Hall, Richard, 64, widowed, age at first marriage 27, born in Yorkshire England, father born in Lancs, mother in York, immigrated in 1886, teacher at a college

And there you have it. I would try contacting the college and see what kind of info they have. Who knows, they might be able to put you in touch with a descendant.

OK, not it. I have found Joseph in Brookline, Massachusetts, in the 1930 census. I think he is a statistician and he is a roomer in Walter Collyers home.

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Lookup Richard Hall Lancashire to Alabama 1886
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 July 08 16:51 BST (UK) »

WWI Draft Registration Card
Joseph P. Hall
born 6 Mar 1896 in Nashville, Tennessee
living at 4803 Fountain
occupation - clerk for DuPont Powder Co., St. Louis
single, caucasian
enlisted in 5th Regiment

WWII Draft Registration Card
Joseph Pearce Hall
5006 Pentridge St., Philadelpha, Pa.
born 6 Mar 1896 in Nashville, Tenn.
Person who will always know your addres:  Mrs. Katherine Hall, 2425 S. 27th St., Arlington, Va.
Employer - Securities & Exchange Commission, 18th & Locust St., Philadelphia
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 July 08 17:49 BST (UK) »

With Shelly's find, I think I found his SSDI. There is a Joseph Hall, born March 6, 1896, died April 1971, in Dade City, Pasco, Florida. From this maybe you can get an obit for him and find living relatives who might be able to fill in gaps in information.

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Lookup Richard Hall Lancashire to Alabama 1886
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 July 08 18:04 BST (UK) »

Hi Kath and Shelly

Many thanks once again for your help.  All the facts tie up - Richard's father was born in Lancashire (and his grandfather Richard is mentioned in one of the books you've Googled for me) and his mother in Yorkshire; in addition, his mother's name was Emma Ellis Tetley, which fits with daughter Mary Ellis Hall.

I'm going to try to absorb all this information now and see what else I can find.  Thanks once again.

Stephanie.
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Hall: Great Eccleston; Elswick; Bolton, Lancs
Pye: Goosnargh; Preston; Wyresdale, Lancs
Robinson: Goosnargh; Barnacre; Lancs
Clegg: Barnacre; Goosnargh; Wyresdale, Lancs
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 July 08 18:52 BST (UK) »

Just looking over this stuff again, I saw that in 1910, I have put that Margaret had 4 children, 2 living, but I go to list 3 children. I went back and looked at the image and it really looks like it could be a 2, but I think it is a 3 with a curl on the end.

glad it's all coming together for you.

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 July 08 18:53 BST (UK) »

One more thing, if you would like a picture of him, there is one with the passport application on Ancestry. PM me with your email address and I will send it to you.

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Lookup Richard Hall Lancashire to Alabama 1886
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 July 08 14:49 BST (UK) »

The Florida Death Index has this:
Joseph Pearce Hall
Died 12 Apr. 1971 in Polk Co., Florida
Age at death -75
Race - White
Birth date - 6 Mar 1896
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 July 08 14:54 BST (UK) »

I would definitely contact the library and try for an obit. Here's a link:

http://www.pclc.lib.fl.us/locations_map.html

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Lookup Richard Hall Lancashire to Alabama 1886
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 July 08 15:46 BST (UK) »

Hi both

Thanks for the new info.  Kath, the photo is great!

Stephanie
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Hall: Great Eccleston; Elswick; Bolton, Lancs
Pye: Goosnargh; Preston; Wyresdale, Lancs
Robinson: Goosnargh; Barnacre; Lancs
Clegg: Barnacre; Goosnargh; Wyresdale, Lancs
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 July 08 15:52 BST (UK) »

No problem and your welcome.

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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