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Who are the parents?
« on: Saturday 05 July 08 20:48 BST (UK) »

1871 census
Annie BROOME born 1869 "South Wales" grandaughter living with Grandparents John BROOME and Sarah Anne. I think the possibilites are Maria BROOME born 1846, Jane BROOME 1848 or Lucy BROOME born 1850.
NOT Thomas 1843 as I have his children
NOT Eliza 1840 or Anne who both  married before 1869
Any ideas please?
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Re: Who are the parents?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 July 08 20:58 BST (UK) »

The only way to be absolutely sure is to get her birth certificate.

Do you have her in the 1881 census to help narrow down place of birth?

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Re: Who are the parents?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 July 08 21:15 BST (UK) »

Hi Susan and Irene

She's still there in 1881, aged 12,  and still b. South Wales:

RG11/2635 Folio 108 Page 9


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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 July 08 21:30 BST (UK) »

Haven't found her on the 1891 yet but there is an interesting marriage entry in Madeley - not far from Dawley:

Annie Broome, June Q, 1894, Madeley,  vol 6a, Page 1195

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 July 08 11:08 BST (UK) »

From the marriage Gadget found, 1901 census has Edward Maiden with wife Annie, her age looks like 21, there's a squiggle over the top could be 31. If she's 21 she would have been aged 14 at marriage  Shocked Undecided  Place of birth is given as Dawley as is the rest of the family.  RG13/2524/86/12

Have searched birth index 1868-1870 the only plausible one found is Annie Broom Sep. qtr. 1870 Newport Mon., vol. 11a page 171.

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Re: Who are the parents?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 July 08 11:41 BST (UK) »

Hi Susan

The BMD index  site is playing up for me at the moment but I remember seeing a birth reg in Ludlow as well  - now I know it's not Wales but it seemed a possible to me - I'm sure some of my family thought Ludlow was part of Wales Roll Eyes



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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 July 08 11:53 BST (UK) »

BMD site completely froze on me last night, PC and laptop  Undecided

Is this the one?

Ann Broome, September qtr. 1869 Ludlow vol. 6a page 532

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Re: Who are the parents?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 July 08 11:55 BST (UK) »

Yep - that's the one  Smiley

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Re: Who are the parents?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 July 08 12:13 BST (UK) »

The Ludlow birth registered September Q 1869 is perhaps a bit late for a child who is aged 2 on census night 1871?

There is an Ann Broome aged 1 born in Culmington (Ludlow reg district) on 1871 census.
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 July 08 13:53 BST (UK) »

The 1870 could have been a late reg but if not she would have been even younger.

Maybe we could try following the three daughters that Irene mentioned:

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I think the possibilites are Maria BROOME born 1846, Jane BROOME 1848 or Lucy BROOME born 1850.

If any of them are on the 1871 or married after 1869, it might give a lead.


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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 July 08 14:09 BST (UK) »

Throwing in possibles:

Marriage - Maria Broome, Dec q, 1870, Bridgenorth, vol 6a  page 1228
Possible spouse - Thomas Dovet or Richard Lloyd

no obvious marriages for Jane or Lucy in the area or in South Wales.


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Re: Who are the parents?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 July 08 14:11 BST (UK) »

Possible for Lucy on the 1871 as a domestic servant:

Chorlton, Lancs

RG10/4007 Folio 44 page 1
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 July 08 14:21 BST (UK) »

and a possible marriage for her

june qtr 1875 Chorlton vol 8c pg 866 with Joseph Beckitt and Isaac John Anderson on the same page

Could be Jane in Lilleshall RG10/2812 folio 90 pg 21?

Possible marriage march qtr 1873 Clun vol 6a pg 865 to Richard Griffiths

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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 July 08 14:29 BST (UK) »

Possible for Lucy in Hulme, Lancs in 1881 married to John Anderson RG11/3931 folio 56 pg 1?

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 July 08 16:10 BST (UK) »

From the marriage Gadget found, 1901 census has Edward Maiden with wife Annie, her age looks like 21, there's a squiggle over the top could be 31.

Susan  Smiley



Been looking at this and  it does look like  a correction to 31.


So, with osprey's finds, we seem to have got all the possible mothers possible marriages but no further forward with which one.

If I was Irene, I think I'd be tempted to buy the 1870 birth reg  that Susan found.


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