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« on: Sunday 06 July 08 11:33 BST (UK) »

Hello.

I'm wondering about putting an ad in a
major paper
 in order to catch if i can any Kemp, Barrett or Green descendents - most of my Victorian/Edwardian antecedents were in Kingston/New Malden,Surrey; West Ham/Essex and Greater London/Bethnal Green in the late 19th & early 20th century. 

Which papers would be appropriate?  Could someone advise please.

Regards,
Julie
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ENGLAND:  Ball, Beer, Bell, Green, Jacklin, Kemp, Miles, Mowat
WALES:  Watkins
IRELAND:  Finn, Fitzpatrick, McGrath, Walsh,
SCOTLAND:  Chalmers, Cooper, Ferguson, Galloway, Patterson
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 July 08 12:02 BST (UK) »

To advertise in a major London = equals national newspaper, since your interests are in the London area, will be expensive and probably unproductive for relatively common surnames such as Green (in particular - 19th most common surname in this country - there are currently about  145,856 Greens, but of course many more like me who are descended from Greens), Barrett (146th most common surname with only about  40,154 Barretts) and Kemp (the rarest ranked 262 with 26,376) most of whom wouldn't read the small adds of a national newspaper, or necessarily if they did have any knowledge or interest in their family history over 100 years age (now outside their own families' living memory). My Greens were in the East End of London but were like many East End Londoners bombed out in the Second World War lost most of their possessions and scattered across the country thereafter.

http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php

Local newspapers are not major newspapers and they struggle for circulation against local freebies e.g. Surrey Advertiser

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/

It would be far better and cheaper to join local family history societies that cover the areas you are interested

West Surrey FHS

http://www.wsfhs.org/

East London FHS

http://www.eolfhs.org.uk/eolintro.htm

and express an interest in their journals becuase you are more likely to get in contact with others researching the same surnames in those areas.

There is also GenesReunited

http://www.genesreunited.com/

and Rootschat itself since Google indexes thses pages and nowadays the Internet and/or Family History Societies are the places most people who are interested in their family history get in touch with others.
The population of this country which in the C20th has been increasingly mobile, is so large - at least 56 million, advertising in newspapers even local ones which cover a more rural area are probably likely to be an expensive option and less productive than other cheaper avenues where people who are interested in their family history are likely to look.

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Valda
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 July 08 12:23 BST (UK) »

I think you would have more chance if you put your names in the "Surname Interests Table".

The link is via "Your Surname Interests" found at the bottom of every page.

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Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 July 08 15:37 BST (UK) »

Hello.

Thanks Valda and behindthefrogs:   I had to ask!
I reckon the authority governing the census needs a wakeup call.   The censuses ought to be available to all:  at least with the ability to ask for contact or clarification re family lines.

Many thanks,
Julie
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ENGLAND:  Ball, Beer, Bell, Green, Jacklin, Kemp, Miles, Mowat
WALES:  Watkins
IRELAND:  Finn, Fitzpatrick, McGrath, Walsh,
SCOTLAND:  Chalmers, Cooper, Ferguson, Galloway, Patterson
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 July 08 16:15 BST (UK) »

The census images 1841-1901 are freely available to all at The National Archives in London. They are just not freely available on the Internet. The reason given is the cost of indexing each census, for Ancestry well over a million pounds per census - I have seen figures much higher. On the internet you pay for the indexing without which the whole of each census whether free on the Internet or not would be a complete nightmare to search. Ancestry and other companies who have indexed the censuses have to recoup their outlay and make a profit. The one census, the 1881 which is free on the internet to search, was indexed by volunteers from family history societies and funded by the Church of Latter Day Saints. From start to finish I think the project took about 10 years and was a massive outlay of effort by all concerned.

The authority 'governing' the censuses is The National Archives funded by British taxpayers money. If you wish to email them this is their website on information about censuses.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/census/default.htm?homepage=fr-census

The National Archives has records stretching back over 900 years with well over 50 miles of shelved records it is responsible for. The 1911 census alone takes up 2 and a half kilometres of shelving and contains 8 million individual household schedules. It costs a great deal of money to run The National Archives and it requires TNA to go into partnership with profit making firms in order to further digitalise more records and thus make more available to the general public.

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 July 08 16:25 BST (UK) »

There's a free newspaper, The Guardian, circulated in South West London (and possibly beyond) and delivered to most houses weekly in which I have seen several articles written by people looking for relatives. You could do worse than write something and e-mail it to them.

www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk

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Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 July 08 00:46 BST (UK) »

Thanks very much Meles.
Regards
Julie
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WALES:  Watkins
IRELAND:  Finn, Fitzpatrick, McGrath, Walsh,
SCOTLAND:  Chalmers, Cooper, Ferguson, Galloway, Patterson
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 July 08 19:52 BST (UK) »

Why not try Channel 4's family tree service pages 174 & 175. I have posted 5 messages trying to locate descendants from branches of my tree. I have a few responses, the last message I discovered from a friend and neighbour that my distant cousin had no children. Which was confirmed by an ex student who my cousin taught, she sent me a photograph.

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BORRILL;-  Hull (occ Bakers) & Grimsby
CLARVIS:- Any
KENDALL:-N.Lincs, Hull (1860+) esp Primitive Methodist's
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 July 08 22:37 BST (UK) »

Thanks very much MBorrill!
Regards
Julie
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WALES:  Watkins
IRELAND:  Finn, Fitzpatrick, McGrath, Walsh,
SCOTLAND:  Chalmers, Cooper, Ferguson, Galloway, Patterson
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« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 July 08 23:21 BST (UK) »

Dear MBorrill,

I went to Channel 4's website but not able to locate the
... Channel 4's family tree service pages 174 & 175.

Can you help me out here please?!

Julie
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WALES:  Watkins
IRELAND:  Finn, Fitzpatrick, McGrath, Walsh,
SCOTLAND:  Chalmers, Cooper, Ferguson, Galloway, Patterson
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 July 08 05:48 BST (UK) »

The remainder of your message is missing but guess you are asking how to contact them

Make sure your message is no more than 50 words long include full postal address at the end of your email (not counted in message unless this is how you want to be contacted) It takes around two weeks to air will only show one message a month so do not send more than this.

email address is connect@teletext.co.uk

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BORRILL;-  Hull (occ Bakers) & Grimsby
CLARVIS:- Any
KENDALL:-N.Lincs, Hull (1860+) esp Primitive Methodist's
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 July 08 11:22 BST (UK) »

Thanks very much Maria.
Julie.
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ENGLAND:  Ball, Beer, Bell, Green, Jacklin, Kemp, Miles, Mowat
WALES:  Watkins
IRELAND:  Finn, Fitzpatrick, McGrath, Walsh,
SCOTLAND:  Chalmers, Cooper, Ferguson, Galloway, Patterson
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