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Topic: Birmingham Look Up please (Read 260 times)
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Valda
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Judging by the birthplaces of Henry and Mary the marriage may not have taken place in Birmingham
1851 census HO107 2355 folio 105
Haver Lane All Saints Peasholme York
Henry Freeman 60 Head Married Hatter Crawley Sussex
Mary Freeman 43 Married Kendal Cumberland
Thomas Freeman 15 Son Confectioner Birmingham Warwickshire
Henry Freeman 13 Son Errand Boy Birmingham Warwickshire
Eliza Freeman 10 Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire
Alfred Freeman 8 Son York Yorkshire
Catherine Freeman 5 Daughter York Yorkshire
Joseph Freeman 3 Son York Yorkshire
William Freeman 10 Months Yorkshire
Anyone of the children's birth certificates would give you their mother's maiden name and therefore help find the marriage.
Eliza was baptised in York not Birmingham. Birth registrations start 1st July 1837 where parents registered them and not all did in the early days of registration. There are only baptisms before that which won't give the mother's maiden name. Only birth certificates will give you the maiden name and you have to purchase them either from the General Registry Office or local registrars.
ELIZA FREEMAN
Christening: 18 SEP 1842 Saint Cuthbert, York, Yorkshire
Father: HENRY FREEMAN
Mother: MARY
ALFRED FREEMAN
Christening: 23 JUL 1843 Saint Cuthbert, York, Yorkshire
Father: HENRY FREEMAN
Mother: MARY
Births Sep 1843
FREEMAN Alfred York 23 657
CAROLINE FREEMAN
Christening: 09 NOV 1845 Saint Cuthbert, York, Yorkshire
Father: HENRY FREEMAN
Mother: MARY
Births Dec 1845
FREEMAN Caroline York 23 685
JOSEPH FREEMAN
Christening: 10 SEP 1848 Saint Cuthbert, York, Yorkshire
Father: HENRY FREEMAN
Mother: MARY
Births Sep 1848
FREEMAN Joseph York 23 726
WILLIAM FREEMAN
Christening: 01 SEP 1850 Saint Cuthbert, York, Yorkshire
Father: HENRY FREEMAN
Mother: MARY
Births Sep 1850
Freeman William York 23 774
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Considering the age of Henry Freeman senior any marriage to Mary may be a second marriage. Have you checked to see whether Henry left a will which might mention older children?
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Valda
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Valda
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I don't have enough evidence to do anything but merely speculate about Henry's and Mary's marriage, which is a waste of time when it is possible to find out Mary's maiden name by purchasing one of the children's births which were registered in York. Finding Mary's maiden name is the obvious way to go.
You don't need a birth certificate for Eliza whose birth doesn't appear to be registered, or her older siblings who may have been born before civil registration or in the case of Henry again his birth doesn't appear to be registered either, the younger siblings all had their births registered in York so you just need to order one of their certificates. I have given the General Registry Office information needed for each of their births and the GRO webpage to order one one of them from. Any of their births will get you the information about Mary's maiden name.
Or if you choose you can order them from York registry office
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers Reference
FREEMAN Alfred Walmgate York WAL/6/19
FREEMAN Caroline Walmgate York WAL/8/78
FREEMAN Joseph Walmgate York WAL/12/23
FREEMAN William Walmgate York WAL/14/89
http://www.yorkshirebmd.info/births.html
As Henry died in 1858
Deaths Mar 1858
Freeman Henry York 9d 18
For wills first read
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=219
and then follow the instructions at
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm
Regards
Valda
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The National probate index post 1858 is not online but can be found in major libraries on microfiche.
If the birth certificate only listed the surname Robinson and there was no mention of former surnames then you would expect Sarah Robinsons marriage to Henry Freeman to be her first and in the surname Robinson.
To clear up whether it took place in Greater Birmingham I would request a search of the Greater Birmingham marriage index held by the Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry
http://www.bmsgh.org/search/sea.html
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Valda
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