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Hello!
I am looking for info on the family of my ggrandfather, Frederick George Chapman b. July 6, 1894.
His brother Sydney lived in "Leeds, England"...no idea which Leeds though!! 
I have in my possession only two shreds of evidence that Sydney even existed. One is a Christmas card postmarked LEEDS in 1954 and the other a picture of him signed "Your brother Syd".
I have been concentrating my search on the Leeds in Kent because we think Fred was born in London (from his marriage application in the USA) and Kent is close by, however, someone on the Kent board suggested that the more likely LEEDS would be in West Riding as the smaller town of Leeds (in Kent) probably would not have postmarked their own mail.
I BELIEVE that Syd's parents were William Chapman and Elizabeth Cooper or Daley. This comes from info Fred provided on his marriage application. Of course, the possibility exists that they had different fathers or mothers. I have nothing in my possession that says "SYD CHAPMAN", simply "Your brother Syd".
There was another sibling that I know of...Dorothy E. Stephenson of "Preston Lane, England" (according to Fred's obit in 1960). She was called "Dolly". I have been informed that the "Lane" might be a typo and should read "Lanc" which would make more sense if Dorothy and Sydney lived in close proximity. Fred stowed away on a ship and came to the US in 1917-1918.
I am assuming that Sydney died between 1954 and 1960 because he is not mentioned in the 1960 obit. So that narrows it down a bit. 
I have been told that both Fred's mother and father were deceased by 1905ish and that he was sent to live on a "large farm" with his grandfather (not sure if paternal or maternal...also not sure if Sydney and Dorothy were also sent there or to other relatives or perhaps they were older and married or simply moved out???).
Are there phone directories or voters registrations that could be searched for Sydney? What about obituaries between December 1954 and December 1960. Are they searchable in a database? Are there old land maps that might indicate a "Chapman Farm" or a "Daley (or Cooper) Farm"???I am really at a loss on where to look next.
ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Elise
in PA, USA
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CaroleW
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Hi Elise
There is a 1901 census entry for Frederick but Sydney is not shown. However - somebody else appears to be researching the family as a transcription error has been notified by Ann Allcock. She also makes mention of the following 1891 entry
RG12/3666 Hunslet ED 46 Fol 148 page 32
This is the 1901 entry which is transcribed as Charman. Everybody b Leeds except Eliza. Address was 59 Lindon Rd Hunslet
William Chapman 43 gas meter inspector
Eliza 43 b Halifax
Margaret 22
Horace 19
Amy 17
Hilda 13
Fred 6
RG13 Piece 4194 Folio 102 Page 10.
The 1891 entry shows a different wife but also b Halifax and the same age as Eliza. Everybody b Leeds except Alice
Address was 16 Fulham Place Hunslet
William Chapman 33 gas meter inspector
Alice 34 b Halifax
Margaret 12
Horace W 9
Amy 7
Hilda A 3
RG12/3666 Folio 148 page 32
freebmd has 2 Sydney Chapman births in Leeds - 1909 and 1912
The 1912 entry shows mothers maiden name as Richardson
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CaroleW
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This is a probable first marriage - if you look at the 1881 entry Alice's brother George Gray is in the household
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1877
CHAPMAN William F GRAY Alice St Peter, Leeds Leeds CE46/88/222
1881 entry
William F. CHAPMAN 23 b Holbeck York Woollen Draper
Alice 23 b Holbeck
Margaret E.G 2 b Holbeck
George GRAY Brother 28 b Bingley York Gas Fitter & Plumber
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Dear Carole,
Thanks for taking a look at the census for me. I don't think, however, this is the same family. Elizabeth would have been deceased before 1912 and Richardson isn't a surname I ever heard mentioned. I am beginning to wonder if the family moved around a lot (since Fred listed LONDON as his place of birth) and missed the 1901 census?!?! Is that possible?
Can you find Sydney Chapman in Leeds in the 1912 census? Or maybe Dorothy? She supposedly married a Stephenson and Fred's obituary says she lived on Preston Lane.
Thank you!!!
Elise
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Hi
There is no 1912 census. The next one for release is the 1911 but it will only be released in phases starting sometime next year
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Carole,
Oops! My mistake...I thought you said mom's name was Richardson on the 1912 census, but it was on the BMD....how do you search mom's maiden name on the BMD? I can only ever get the child's name and the quarter!?!?
Thank you
Elise
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Hi
Mothers maiden names are only shown alongside birth entries from the September quarter of 1911. Prior to then it was guesswork
For marriages - spouses surnames are shown on entries from the March quarter of 1912
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