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Hephzibah haines
« on: Monday 07 July 08 04:44 BST (UK) »

My family tree has this name in it.
As i have Mark  Bishop married Hephzibah Haines
and had  Eli Bishop, and  a few other childeren.

the book page for this is 89/398
Mark and Hephzibah are buried in the Mitcham General Cemetary I belive which is in South Australia.
More in for  for Book 50/383
Book 932/page 349
book 383 /page 404
I am like I said before a direct decendent of the Bishops Side
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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 July 08 04:49 BST (UK) »

Hullo and welcome to rootschat.

To which book are you referring?
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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 July 08 05:03 BST (UK) »

Hi Waterfall

Another  welcome to rootschat  Grin

I think you should have posted on this link
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,309451.msg1941545.html#msg1941545

If you click on the green icon under Lilygirl's username you can send her a personal message.

Charlotte I think Waterfall is referring to the registration references in South Australia eg  District*****  Book**/Pge**

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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 July 08 05:06 BST (UK) »

Thanks Cando for the clarification.

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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, MIDGLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, BIGFORD, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 July 08 08:50 BST (UK) »

Sorry Yes I was refering to the books nd pages From SOUth Australia.
I am not sure what they really mean other than I have had someone hleping me and I am trying to find my family links of Bishops that are from the Fifth creek in Norwood District,
Also the Sapro Book page932 on Page 349 in the year of 1914 is the last info I have on the family.
I have been looking for two years to find the family line with someone else.
Sorry if I have confusedanyone.
Thankyou for your help too.

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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 04:31 BST (UK) »

Hullo Wateringfalls,

May I ask if you have tried subscribing to AUS-SAGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com and placing your request with them.?     I have found them to be of great assistance.

I am a direct descendant of the HAINES Family, Ellen being my Great Grandmother, but I don't have any information on BISHOP.    If you require anything on the HAINES please let me know.    PM preferrably.     Just in case you are not aware of how to PM me just 'click' on the film roll shown at the left of this posting.

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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 04:56 BST (UK) »

Hi Jim

If you had bothered to read the linked thread where Wateringfalls had already posted a couple of 'posts' that contained no requests for help....and here is another thread she has posted on as well.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,309451.msg1941543.html#msg1941543

I find it a tad 'off' that you have referred Wateringfalls to another family history forum with the comment "I have found them to be of great assistance".  We are very helpful here on the Emigrants to Australian board....but can't help people if they don't place actual requests for help Roll Eyes

Wateringfalls can we help you in any way and if so please place a request...as so far you just seem to be giving us your family data.

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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 09:06 BST (UK) »

I am sorry I did not mean to cause any trouble, yes please may I have help from anyone that can helpin finding my side would be greatful.
I know I posted on here late last year but I only just found it again and posted new info that I got.
I came across another with a name that I have in my line so I just put in the family info, I really dont know much about finding people in these book and things, all the help I have had so far is from people like yourselves that are kind enough to help.
I have not meant to put anyone in the wrong, for this I am sorry.
But I thought that I had asked for help when I replyed to one of the people that had already posted, but it didnt load up as I have now found out.It was Lily girl as she had info that I had not.
Sorry Jim.
Sorry Cando.
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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 09:10 BST (UK) »

Please please Wateringfalls   ..... no trouble at all....we can't help you with any part of your tree if you don't ask..... so if you need some help type up your request.    It can be daunting when you first post on forums so....small steps Grin

Have you any particular names in your family you would like help with.  I have the bdm disk for SA and may be able to help you.  Fire away Grin Grin

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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 09:33 BST (UK) »

from the hephzibah and Mark Bishop side all the way down to my mother Gearldine would be great as I Only have the book pages mentioed in my other posts.
Basically I have nothing on Carl Mark Bishop Also see John Authur Moore ( amy have depoled to this, he was born in 1914 I believe.
As he was my Grandfather but I have no information to find this line fo my family.
He may or May not have married my Mothers Mother Doreen MAy Ward/Rutherford/Bishop/Weston
as she changed her name when she got married to Rutherford,her first marriage, then I know that she was last known by Weston the family came from south Australia, they moved to Queensland Townsville to Charters Towers.
Carl aslo went by Mark Carl Bishop to so it amy be hard to trace.I was told he may have gone to live in NSW his family being farmers?

the names I can give you are
Doreen May Ward (deceased 1992)My Mothers Mother
Geraldine Arlene Bishop/Weston/Styler/Cooling( deceased 1980-81)My mother
Carl Mark Bishop(?-)
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from the hephzibah and Mark Bishop side all the way down to my mother Gearldine would be great as I Only have the book pages mentioed in my other posts.
Basically I have nothing on Carl Mark Bishop Also see John Authur Moore ( amy have depoled to this, he was born in 1914 I believe.
As he was my Grandfather but I have no information to find this line fo my family.
He may or May not have married my Mothers Mother Doreen MAy Ward/Rutherford/Bishop/Weston
as she changed her name when she got married to Rutherford,her first marriage, then I know that she was last known by Weston the family came from south Australia, they moved to Queensland Townsville to Charters Towers.
Carl aslo went by Mark Carl Bishop to so it amy be hard to trace.I was told he may have gone to live in NSW his family being farmers?

the names I can give you are
Doreen May Ward (deceased 1992)My Mothers Mother
Geraldine Arlene Bishop/Weston/Styler/Cooling( deceased 1980-81)My mother
Carl Mark Bishop(?-)


Wateringfalls an extract from the Biographical Index of South Australians 1836-1885....I use it as a guide as it isn't always 100% accurate.

BISHOP  Mark - parents James and Jane, was born 1847 Woodbine, ENG and died 27 Jul 1914 Parkside.  He is buried in the Mitcham Cemetery.
Occupation Labourer and he lived at Clarendon.
Married on 15 Nov 1871 at Kangarille, SA  Hephzibah nee HAINES whose father was Thomas.  She was born 25 Dec 1850 Adelaide SA and died 10 Jul 1924 at Clarence Park SA
Their children
Albert [1872-1934], John 1874-], Elizabeth June Zelmar [1877-], Ed, Eli, Dell, Rachel [1881-1881], Herbert James Thomas [1882-], William, Walter

Now to do some searching myself.  Will be back shortly

Cheers
Cando
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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 10:13 BST (UK) »

thanks if you have time later, is there anything on ELi Bishop Down to Carl MArk Bishop.
As I think thats where the family line heads to
Thanks Kindly.
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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 10:32 BST (UK) »

Now firstly Eli's birth
BISHOP Eli
29 Sep 1886
Father Mark BISHOP  Mother Hephzibah HAINS
At Bakers Gully
Ref MoV 383/404

His marriage
BISHOP Eli  Age 21  Status Single  Father Mark BISHOP
WELLS Myrtle Agnes  Age 21  Status Single  Father Charles WELLS
13 Aug 1907  At Residence of Rev W A Potts, Adelaide
Ref Ade 232/730

Their children

BISHOP Hazel May 8 Apr 1906 at Unley
Ade S 903/426

BISHOP Ethel Agnes 3 May 1908  at Parkside
Ref Ade 802/49

BISHOP Alfred Henry 18 Jan 1910  at Parkside
Ref Ade 835/448

BISHOP Ronald Eli 27 Feb 1912 at Parkside
Ref  Ade 881/284

BISHOP Carl Mark 22 Mar 1914 at Fifth Creek [Norwood area]
Ref Nor 932/349
Cross Reference: See also: MOORE John Arthur

MOORE John Arthur 22 Mar 1914 at Fifth Creek
Father  Eli BISHOP  Mother Myrtle Agnes WELLS
Ref  Nor 932/349
Cross Reference: See also: BISHOP Carl Mark

BISHOP Hepzebah Myrtle 16 Apr 1917 at Montacute
Ref Nor 996/351

I think I will have to put it to the forum the meaning of the two birth registrations....is it an adoption or ??

Will press on.

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 08 July 08 10:57 BST (UK) »

Now Wateringfalls...which one is your grandmother

WARD Doreen May     8 Jun 1912 at Streaky Bay
Father John WARD  Mother Blanche Eliza PASFIELD
Ref  Fli 888/215
 
WARD Doreen May 18  Jul 1921 at Birkenhead
Father  Roy Hey WARD  Mother Clara LEVITON
Ref PtA  79A/212

WARD Doreen May 25 Feb 1928 at Kilkenny
Father William Stephen WARD  Mother Elizabeth May FITZPATRICK
Ref  Hin 207A/419

Have you any certificates for your mother or grandmother?  In which state did they marry and when?  The marriage index finishes at 1937 and in NSW 1957 and Qld 1929 so no records are available after these dates.

I can't see a record for Carl Mark BISHOP on the electoral roll for 1936...he would have been old enough to vote but looks as though he didn't enrol ie if he was in NSW or Qld.  SA rolls are not available online for 1936.

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Re: Hephzibah haines
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 00:32 BST (UK) »

Hullo Cando,

I'm terribly sorry that I apparently 'trod on your toes' or got you upset by referring another subscriber to the South Australian Message Forum of Rootsweb.

I have always been under the impression that Rootsweb and Rootschat where under the same auspices.    Besides, what is genealogy about if we can't help each other find their information.

Regards, Jim
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