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LizzieW
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Hi
Does anyone have access to the Ontario, Canada Marriages 1857-1924 on Ancestry? If so, I am interested in a marriage between a William George Wright and someone called Blanca Isabella.
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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LizzieW
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Hi Karen
Thank you very much. I don't know anything about them, it was just another hunch whilst looking for my g.grandfather George William Wright.
His mother was supposed to have been called Da Costa or some variation of it, and I thought Blanca (which you have as Bianca which makes more sense) Isabella might have been the mother I was looking for. Unfortunately, both Bianca and her husband William George Wright are too young, being the same age as my g.grandfather. As I don't have the full Ancestry membership I wasn't even able to see any dates to rule them out.
Oh well, back to the haystack to see if I can find the needle with g.grandfather's name on it 
Lizzie
ps. Thank you for the PM too, I don't think I need a copy of the marriage details.
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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J.J.
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What year was your George William Wright born? If you know the approximate location where he was thought to be born, perhaps he can be found on the 1852 census...? What DO you know about him? J.J.
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LizzieW
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JJ
All I know about my g.grandfather was that he was born about 1858. This fits in with the English 1891 and 1901 census and his age at death in 1935.
I can't find him until he is named on my gran's birth certificate in 1884 in the UK. My aunt (my dad's only sibling still alive) says that his mother was supposed to be called Da Costa and was either Spanish or Portuguese, she says she doesn't know anything else, nor his father's name. On the 1891 and 1901 census he gives his birthplace as London/Middlesex but as there seems to be no trace of his birth in the UK, I have started looking elsewhere for him. As I said to Karen, I'm looking for a needle in a haystack.
I am trying to think laterally and think of all the other places in the world where there are Londons or Middlesexes and also looking for women with Spanish/Portuguese sounding names who married a Wright. That's when I came across the Canadian marriage.
I don't think Canada is an option now.
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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J.J.
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Well we usually see the birth origin as Canada, or the Province of birth...What did his entry say in 1881?
Have you asked on the Middlesex board about the Shoreditch & Holborn births on freeBMD??
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J.J.
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There is a "Costa" family in 1881 London, Mx. ( tons in Middlesex) which might be a watered down version of La Costa...but can't find a Wright match  on the BMD... "Costa" on the 1881 U.S. born England with 2 of them "DE COSTA" stating "London"...Lots of "Da Costa & De Costa" on IGI London...
There is also the name combined to "LACOSTA" "LaCosta" "Decosta" "Dacosta"
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There are two submissions for a Blanca Costa ( not of right age) on the IGI...& a death in U.S. for a Blanca Dacosta so the forename does exist...seems to be a version of Blanche.
I suppose you've already looked for a death for Blanca Wright....
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LizzieW
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What did his entry say in 1881?
JJ - I haven't found him in 1881. The following is what I know so far.
His name is on my grandmother's birth certificate in 1884 as the father, occupation fisherman. Her mother is calling herself Maria Wright, although I can't find a marriage or a death of her first husband for that matter, although he is shown as deceased on the birth certificate of her last child with the first husband.
On the 1891 census, my g.grandfather is living with my g.gran some of her children and two of the children she had with him. He is still a fisherman and gives his place of birth as London. (ref RG12/3919/29/11)
On the 1901 census, he is living with my g.gran at a confectionery shop they either owned or rented, where he is now working. His place of birth is shown as Middlesex (crossed out), then London. (ref RG13.4479/46/41). Unfortunately, even if you look for this reference on Ancestry and find my g.grandfather and his family, including a 3rd child he had with my g.gran and you then try to view the census page, you are directed to the wrong page. I can't find the actual page at all on Ancestry, but downloaded it from Genesreunited, so I could read it.
Next in 1926, still living at the address shown on the 1901 census, he is shown on my g.gran's death certificate as "widower of deceased".
Finally, I have his death certificate from 1935, when he died still at the same address, age given as 77.
On the 1891 census he gives his age as 31, but I think he was 33.
On the 1901 census, he gives his age as 43, making his date of birth 1858, the same as can be calculated from his death certificate.
As I can't find his birth at any time from 1855 to 1860 with the correct mother (having bought at least 3 "wrong" certificates) it occurred to me that the London where he was born was not in the UK, especially given his mother's apparent nationality. As my gran and her children and, indeed some of the grandchildren, although not me particularly, had, or have, very olive skin and black hair, the Spanish/Portuguese part is not in doubt.
Yes, I've been on the Middlesex boards etc. I was hoping that when all records are digitised so that even births as far back as 1837 show the mother's maiden name, I might have a breakthrough, but it seems that, being a government initiative, the digitisation is years away now.
The only information I found and put two and two together and made 5  was a census showing a Miss Wright and a Miss da Costa living at the same address, both in their 40s and unmarried, Miss Wright shown as a friend. When I traced her back I found she had a brother called George. I then had the idea that maybe Miss da Costa when younger, had a fling with her friend's brother and the result was my g.grandfather. No proof, so had to put that one on the back burner too.
If only I'd asked my father and my gran more about the Portuguese connection when I was a child, but it didn't seem important at the time.
Lizzie
ps. I have my g.gran from her birth to her death and have searched all the census to see if there were any Wrights/da Costas in the vicinity of all the places she lived but without success, apart from the 1881 census when I found she was working in a laundry, and there was a Miss Wright also working in a laundry. However, I couldn't find a connection with that Miss Wright and my g.grandfather.
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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J.J.
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That marriage cert would be something to have, then as you seem to have everything post marriage on him....Plus having read several of the other posts,
it seems not only the whole name of the mother, but also the name of the father are not known for sure...
Here is a page where there are only five listed on page with a
WRIGHT George William for Sept. Q. 1879 Sheffield vol. 9c p.432
Same for Dec. Q 1882 / S. Shields v.10a p.1085
Is it not still true that if you say- the wife's name should be Maria Alden and it is not that you would not have to pay for it & be credited ?
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I see now that Maria is with first hubby on 1881 Hull...Who knows, maybe the marriages in Hull March Q. 1884 were supposed to have six on page...
I don't see any actual posted requests for the marriage...? J.J.
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LizzieW
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Maria is a widow on the 1881 census, mistranscribed as Abden. Reference RG11/4775/57/13. From memory the one you have found is someone different and much younger.
I'll have a look at those marriages' you've found and yes I can ask for the wife to be checked, it costs £3 our of the £7 sent to GRO, the other £4 being returned if the certificate doesn't have the required wife, or whatever is being checked.
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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