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Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« on: Wednesday 09 July 08 04:00 BST (UK) »

Hi All,
Trying to track down any info on Duncan Cameron and Anne Munro, m. 21 May 1790 in Urquhart. I've tracked down 3 children on FamilySearch:

Christian b. 25/5/1791, Urquhart and Logie Wester (presumably died young)
Christian b. 3/2/1793, Urquhart and Logie Wester (my ggg-grandmother; my gg-grandfather's (George MacKenzie) mother-in-law)
Andrew b. 16/1/1795, Urquhart and Logie Wester

Christian Cameron married James Urquhart, in Urquhart on 14 July 1814

On notes my grandfather left he's commented that the Cameron line may have come from the Lochaber region.

Also found some children born to a Duncan Cameron and Helen Munro in the 1780's which does make me wonder whether it's the same Duncan and he's remarried a sister (Anne)?

Any info much appreciated.

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Darryl

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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 July 08 00:19 BST (UK) »

Hi Darryl
hope you dont mind
I had a look at the IGI at the marriages
for Duncan Cameron and Anne Munro
there is only one that is an extracted marriage 1706 Petty Inverness
the others are all submitted entries
so too are the births of the children of Duncan and Anne
there are no extracted entries for the children
you should be cautious of the submitted entries especially when there
are no extracted entries to back them up
do you have any census records for Duncan that may show him with Anne
if not maybe you should ask someone to maybe see if they can find them on the census
then you could confirm they were born  in that area
sorry I dont have access to the census's
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 July 08 01:22 BST (UK) »

hope this helps
1841 census on SP
Finlay Cameron............70........Farmer
Duncan Cameron.........30........Dyker
William Cameron..........27........Do
?          Cameron..........20........Labourer
Janet    Cameron..........29
John     McDonald..........13.......AG LAB
?          McKenzie...........75       unreadable
Anne   Cameron............45.......F R
all born in the county
possibly someone else may be able to read it better than I can
Elaine
added there are McKay's on there too

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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 July 08 11:32 BST (UK) »

I have Finlay Cameron, son of Kenneth and Christian Cameron. Finlay married Margaret Grant.
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 July 08 13:40 BST (UK) »

information from freecen

SCT1841/60 Contin  ED: 6, CP: Contin, Address: Cranich
CAMERON,Finlay   M    70    Farmer        Ross and Cromarty           
CAMERON,Duncan   M    30    Dyker        Ross and Cromarty           
CAMERON,William   M    27    Dyker        Ross and Cromarty           
CAMERON,Rodk   M    20    Labourer       Ross and Cromarty           
CAMERON   ,Janet   F    29    Female Srvnt    Ross and Cromarty           
MCDONALD,John   M    13    Ag Lab        Ross and Cromarty

the following are showing as a separate household, next door...

SCT1841/60  Contin ED: 6, CP: Contin,  Address: Balnacraig   
MCKENZIE,Rodk    M    75    Wool Hand Loom Weaver    Ross and Cromarty           
CAMERON,Anne    F   45    Female Servant                Ross and Cromarty       
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 July 08 14:28 BST (UK) »

You may find this site useful:

http://www.clan-cameron.org.au/search.php?myfirstname=finlay&mylastname=cameron&mybool=AND&offset=0&search=Search

http://www.clan-cameron.org.au/search.php?myfirstname=duncan&mylastname=cameron&mybool=AND&offset=0&search=Search
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 July 08 22:04 BST (UK) »

Thanks Elaine for the cautionary note. I'm confident about everything back to the marriage of James Urquhart and Christian Cameron as it matches with my grandfather's notes, but the leap back to Christian's birth and Duncan was based on the names of James and Christian's children and is more of 1 possible lead rather than something I'm certain about. Was hoping to pick up some additional info that might help me decide about Duncan one way or the other.
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 July 08 22:54 BST (UK) »

Hi

Scotlands People have the marriage as Daryl states - 21st May 1790, Urquhart and Logie Wester:

Duncan Cameron in Balnabin was contracted with Anne Munro there and were married


Also it confirms the baptisms of children to this couple in Urquhart:

25 May 1791 - Christian
3 Feb 1793 - Christian
16 Jan 1795 - Andrew


There are two possibilities for Ann Munro* in U and L W:

23 June 1871  d/o Alexander Munro and Elizabeth McCrae
15 December 1775 d/o James Munro and Ann Gordon

and one possible for Duncan Cameron:

17 June 1768 s/o William Cameron and Ann Steuart

Given the names of their children I'm not sure about these but they may be worth following up.

It might be worth doing a wider search for either of these with a mother Christian (probably Ann but sometimes the naming conventions were reversed)

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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 July 08 23:38 BST (UK) »

just been looking at SP
there is one death on SP for a Duncan Cameron
with mothers maiden name Munro in Ross & Cromarty
have you got that one
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 July 08 23:42 BST (UK) »

How old was he, Elaine?

It might be he was baptised elsewhere or record missing.


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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 July 08 23:51 BST (UK) »

Gadget
sadly it is a baby
1858 Duncan Cameron  aged 0 Killtearn Ross & Cromarty
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 July 08 00:03 BST (UK) »

Thanks Ladies
Would either of you mind looking on SP to see if there's a registered death for Christian Cameron >1855? I think I found the household in the 1841 census though some of the children are missing (though perhaps they'd already died), and some of the ages are a bit off (not uncommon). Area is right though I think; should be in the region of Balnabeen.

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Children of Christian Cameron and James Urquhart that I've found are (all Urquhart and Logie Wester):
William, c.4/8/1817
Christian, c.28/11/1820
Duncan, c.2/1/1823
John, c.21/4/1826
James, c.19/4/1828
Donald, b. 23/4/1830

Christian (Christina) Urquhart is my gg-grandmother on the MacKenzie side.
    
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 July 08 00:04 BST (UK) »

FYI Census info was from FreeCen
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 July 08 00:32 BST (UK) »

there are six matches
1856 Christian Cameron..mothers M/S Junor..aged 79..Urquart Logie Wester
1856 Christian Cameron..mothers M/S Thomson.....83..Resolis
1860 Christian Cameron..M/S McDonald..................50 Stornoway
1864      "               "         mothers M/S .. Martin.own M/s Laverton..66...Ross Kean
1867      "               "         M/S Hossack....................72 Cromarty
1878      "               "         M/S McRae.......................73 Dingwall
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Re: Cameron - Munro, Urquhart, Black Isle
« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 July 08 00:40 BST (UK) »

Good Morning,
As a detour have you tried an ebook search?  The New Statistical Account of Scotland - by Society for the Benefit of the Sons and ... - 1845 - History
ROSS AND CROMARTY.  covers a lot of interesting day to day history for the era.  I found it useful while searching for info re Rev Gilbert Robertson and his son Rev Harry Robertson as well as their associated families...just didn't find the mother of one of Harry's grandsons  allegedly born in the West Indies 1794.
Good luck  Abygail
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