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External drive
« on: Wednesday 09 July 08 08:13 BST (UK) »

Never used an external drive before so thought it time to invest in one....now that this genealogy bug has really taken hold.  On advice purchased a Maxtor and as my tower was having a new CD/DVD drive installed, the tech offered to back up the hard drive for me.     Embarrassed Embarrassed  Now how do I do it?    I can see something called Nero Backitup Essentials....do I use this?

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Re: External drive
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 08:24 BST (UK) »

All I do is to copy all the stuff in 'My Documents'  (ctrl a then ctrl c) then open up my computer find the external drive then paste (ctrl v)  the contents on to there. In the end its only your records FH, and other documents that you want to save. I back up to the external once a month. Before I do I do a ged com of the FH data with the present date as file name.
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Re: External drive
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 08:27 BST (UK) »

Thank you.... Grin

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Re: External drive
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 08:32 BST (UK) »

No problem. I keep the external away from the computer in a safe place and just connect up on the back up date
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Re: External drive
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 13:39 BST (UK) »

I suspect that you need to backup more than just My Documents.  For instance are you emails stored in My Documents?  You are better off backing-up:-

C:\Documents and Setting\Your Name

as it contains a lot of your personal setting and data, like email if you use Outlook or Outlook Express.  Right click the Your Name folder and select Send to and then your external hard drive.

If you want to backup your entire hard drive then you can get some good freeware called DriveImageXML.

http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm
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Re: External drive
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 July 08 00:30 BST (UK) »

Hi downside

Yes I need to back my entire hard drive.  Have been using USB Sticks to save my accounting and family history - using three for each application and rotating them when saving...just in case one fails to open.  Too much data to continue that practice hence the purchase of an external drive.

I am wondering about the Nero Backitup Essentials that the tech downloaded - perhaps this is a 'management' tool/programme.  Need to spend time having a look at it. 

I will have a look at the freeware you suggested as well.

Thank you

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Re: External drive
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 July 08 08:58 BST (UK) »

Nero's Backitup program will do as you require and is very simple to operate. If you start it up there is a "wizard" which you can run to assist you to back up the entire drive, part of it or even just selected files - you decide.
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Re: External drive
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 July 08 10:40 BST (UK) »

Thank you Falkym....having been having a 'fiddle' with it this afternoon and think I have the hang of it.  I need to save the entire drive.

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Re: External drive
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 July 08 11:26 BST (UK) »

The reason I mentioned DriveImageXML is because Nero products tend to be frre for a time-limited period and after that you have to pay to use them.

Additionally, DriveImageXML backups up the registry which not all backup software can do.  That is because the registry is open for reading and writing and a lot of backup software cannot backup open files.
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« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 July 08 13:17 BST (UK) »

Hi downside

Yes I need to back my entire hard drive............ 

Are you really sure you need to do that ?  This will take up a lot of time (especially via USB), and you'll need a backup drive of equal or greater size to back it up on.  As already suggested, the only way to backup your entire PC data with any hope of getting it back is via an image file.

The point is that you'll be backing up stuff which you could quite easily re-install via the original program disks and CD's.  Backing up your personal data (documents, emails, office documents and speadsheets, web favourites, cookies, etc) will take up much less time and space.   Another way of preserving important data is to get a "Mirrored Raid Array" installed in your PC, which is basically a pair of hard drives, which both automatically contain the same data, so if one drive fails, the other one still has all the data on it.  Obviously this sort of drive would not protect you against losing programs that you may have accidentally but intentionally wiped.

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Re: External drive
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 July 08 14:33 BST (UK) »

It is always a good idea to backup the whole drive from time to time.

It is all very well saying that you can reinstall programs from CD but they get updated occasionally, especially MS Office and Windows itself is constantly being updated.

It is a worthwhile excercise because you never know when you are going to need it to restore some obscure file.  Better safe than sorry.
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Re: External drive
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 July 08 16:42 BST (UK) »

Sorry, we'll have to agree to differ on that one.  There's no way to re-install a Windows program from a backup unless it's from an image file, unless you're an expert on the Windows registry, because in most cases it's not just a case of re-writing the missing files and directories.  Any programs which have been updated by internet updates will be updated again if re-installed.

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Re: External drive
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 July 08 16:48 BST (UK) »

If you have the set up CD's or recovery ones I can't see the point of backing everything up. I have had to reload on a couple of occasions, each time it as updated. The main thing is to back up your personal files particularly the family history ones!!
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