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Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« on: Wednesday 09 July 08 11:38 BST (UK) »

I'm looking for a marriage of a John SELLWOOD to a Rebecca Unknown about 1770, most likely in Wootton Bassett.

Two baptisms to this couple at Wootton Bassett on IGI are John 29/3/1772 and Elizabeth 5/3/1775.

After that I believe they moved to Drayton, Berks.

Can anyone help, or give me any advice?

Thanks,

Ros
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 14:27 BST (UK) »

Hi Ros,

         Welcome to Rootschat Smiley Smiley

I have PRs for Drayton Berks so had a look for your family and found this, hope it helps Smiley

    Baptisms
Nov 27 1776 Elizabeth dau of John and Rebecka Sellwood
May 2 1778 Rebecka dau of John and Rebecka Sellwood
Dec 23 1787 Ann Marie Sellwood. ( No parents named )
Jun 13 1784/85 Martha dau of John and Rebecka Sellwood
Aug 28 1791 Sarah dau of Rebecka Sellwood

      Marriages
Oct 25 1798 Edward Taylor to Rebecka Sellwood

     Burials
Oct 10 1798 Rebecka Sellwood ( wid )
Jan 9 1811 Sarah Sellwood ( spin )


This was from the old register of Drayton, if it would help i can look through new register for you
to see if there is any other info. What do you think of the above?
Do you think this is your family?

                         Sue
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 July 08 23:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue

Thanks for searching the Berkshire records - it was very kind of you. 

I don't really know how to say this: I'm certain the people you've found are my family, because I already have those entries.  I descend from Rebecca bap 1778 and Edward Taylor.  I'm just not sure the John and Rebecca who baptised the children in Drayton are the same John and Rebecca who baptised the two children in Wootton Bassett - and I don't have a marriage for either of them!  I'm sorry, I should have made myself more clear.  (Not making a very good start on here, am I?  I'm sorry for wasting your time  Undecided )

I think Wootton-Bassett is my best lead - if I can figure out how to pursue it.  W-B marriages are not on the IGI, and I haven't found any other on-line source.  I'm open to suggestions - providing they don't involve visiting Wiltshire: I can't travel.

Thanks again.

Ros
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 July 08 10:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Ros, in a few days I'll have a look in the Wootton Bassett PRs and see if they married there.   As you probably know marriages normally took place in the bride's home parish so let's hope she came from there.   Do you know (by some means) if Rebecca came from Wootton?   Do you have John Sellwood's baptism and family in Wootton?

Hope they pitch up, cheers Dave
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 July 08 19:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Dave

Thanks for this!  If you can get access to the Wootton marriages, that's brilliant.

To answer your questions, tho: No, I don't know that Rebecca came from Wootton.  It says on the IGI that she and John baptised two children there in 1772 and 1775.  I've noticed that a young couple often stayed in the bride's parish, at least until the first child was born, so I think it's a reasonable guess that Rebecca came from Wootton. 

I also notice, from the Wootton baptisms, that Wootton is hip-deep in Sellwoods from about 1600 onwards, so it would be reasonable for my John to have come from there.  There are two John Sellwood baptisms at Wootton which could be him: one on 26th April 1737, parents Thomas and Elizabeth; and one on 28th April 1749, father's name only given: John.

Unfortunately I don't have a burial for my John, which might have given an estimate of his age.  He seems to have died in about 1790.  His wife Rebecca died in 1798 in Drayton and is said to be a widow - her age is not given.  Her last child, Sarah, is baptised in 1791 in Drayton with mother's name only, suggesting that the father may be dead already.  If they are the same couple in both Wootton and Drayton, and Rebecca was giving birth between 1772 and 1791, she was probably born 1745-50.  John's birth would probably also fall around that time.

Putting all the clues together, and trying to move backwards step by step, a marriage at Wootton is the next most likely thing to look for.  It's only because Rebecca is rather an unusual name that I think there's a chance of finding the right marriage.  John Sellwoods are not at all unusual!

Fingers crossed!
Many thanks,
Ros
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 July 08 10:20 BST (UK) »

Hi Ros, as you say either John Sellwood baptism could be him although I fancy the later one making him about 21 or 22 at his marriage rather than 33 or 34.   If his marriage was in Wootton then we can only hope some clue lies there.   In 18th century marriages it is unusual to find recorded details of parents or ages but you never know.   I should be able to confirm the baptisms that appear on the IGI for 1772 and 1775.

Cheers Dave

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Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire. 
Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall
Foster, Rogers in Liverpool
Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire
Mawby, Popple in Rutland
Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset
Willis in Oxfordshire
Fishlock, Snell, Fry, Brown in Wiltshire
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 July 08 11:28 BST (UK) »

these baptisms are on the BIVRI -
all baptised wootton bassett to parents john sellwood and rebecca-
john bapt 29th march 1772
mary bapt 14th nov
elizabeth bapt 5th march 1775
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 July 08 13:14 BST (UK) »

Hi Dave

I agree about John Sellwood - it's just there are several of them around - not all at Wootton - I wouldn't know which one to pick.  For example, there is a marriage posted by a secondary source on the IGI of a John Sellwood in 1771 at Wootton to Susannah Ovens.  The only clues would be if his [putative] siblings' names matched up with his children's at all.  It gets very speculative. 

The only other thing that may help is two burials at Drayton with no matching baptisms:
Martha Sellard bur. 13th Nov 1781 - no age given
Edward Sellwood bur. 6th Oct 1784 - no age given.

These could be further children of John and Rebecca, born elsewhere than Drayton - there is space for two more births in 1780 and 1782.  They could be John's parents, or a brother and his wife, etc.  Or they could be no relation at all, just coincidence.  But Edward is also an unusual name for the time, and could be a marker for either John's or Rebecca's family.

I'll stop twittering now  Smiley

Best
Ros

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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 July 08 13:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Alli

Thanks for that info.  Please, what is the BIVRI?  I haven't heard of it - nor did I have that entry for Mary on 14th November.  Was there a year with that?

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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 July 08 13:29 BST (UK) »

its the BRITISH ISLES VITAL RECORDS INDEX
which i have on cd rom apologies for missing year out it was 1773 the 14th nov
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 July 08 13:43 BST (UK) »

Thanks, Alli.

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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 July 08 14:06 BST (UK) »

Hi Ros, confirm the 3 baptisms that Alli gave from   Wootton Bassett PRs.   The only Sellwood marriages in Wootton Bassett between 1765 and 1775 were........

7 Jan 1771 George Hunt, otp, lab and Mary Selwood, otp
10 Jun 1771 John Selwood, otp, wheelwright and Susannah Ovens, otp
11 Apr 1774 Humphrey Stanley, otp and Mary Sillwood (sic) otp, licence
17 Oct 1774 John Selwood, otp, publican and Mary Rowley, otp

As you said there were a number of John Selwoods in Wootton.

Other Wootton baptisms all children of John and Mary Selwood.......

15 Sep 1775 Betty,   19 Oct 1777 John,   18 Feb 1780 Thomas

Hope some fit in, Dave
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Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire. 
Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall
Foster, Rogers in Liverpool
Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 July 08 18:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Dave

Thanks very much for looking up those entries.  Sorry my hunch about John and Rebecca didn't pan out!  I'll file the info - it may lead to something, eventually. 

Thanks again.   Smiley

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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 12:46 BST (UK) »

Hi Ros
Have you ever come across a Hannah Selwood in your research?
I have her down as being married in Purton in 1772 to Nathaniel Ricks. I think Nathaniel was born in Wootten Bassett, but if as so many did - marry in the brides parish I was wondering if it was worth looking at Purton.
Ive only just really connected her to my family.
bye for now
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Re: Wootton Bassett Marriages - SELLWOOD
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 05 August 08 18:10 BST (UK) »

Hi Marian
I don't know of any Hannah Selwood, sorry!  I really don't know very much about Sellwoods in general - I just noticed there were a lot at Wootton Bassett.

Best of luck finding Nathaniel.
Bye for now
Ros
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