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barryd
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I am linked into the Spraggon family. As Edna was married to Mark Marshall Spraggon for about two years I could at least try and see who her ancestry was. Reviewing the earlier censuses I have the feeling that John Robert Heaton may be the one born JUN Qtr 1839, Keighley area, Yorkshire. (If I am right) his parents were Holmes Heaton and Sarah Shackleton married 27 AUG 1838, Haworth, Yorkshire.
A Robert (one name only no John) was married 23 SEP 1868, Skipton in Craven, Yorkshire to Martha Grace Hanson. Submitted onto the IGI with the full parents Holmes Heaton and Sarah Shackleton. The person submitting this must have known the parents as English/Welsh marriage certificates only give the father's name.
One major problem is that John and Robert are interchangable.
The baptism of John is very late on 30 May 1841, Haworth. Parents Homes Heaton/Sally and also Robert is Holmes Heaton's child age 3 on the 1841 Census. The same child?
To add to the mysteries Free BMD has entered the Heaton/Hanson marriage wrongly and two separate searches have to be made as the page numbers are not the same. Should both be 9a 84. Hanson's is 9a 81 which is a typo which fails to get them together as a couple. The original index is correct.
Could not find the Heaton/Hale marriage!!!
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Vic H
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Hi barryd
When I read your reply I could do nothing but groan! IF you are right & JR is the 1839 entry what have got that definatley lists the parents as Holmes & Sally?
That means I have the wrong line. I guess I am going to have to bite the bullett & buy his death cert. (which will definatley give me his parents, jsst have to figure out how to do this ) My John Robert definately married a Sarah & he is the family in the 1881 census.
thanks for your reply cheers from oz, Vicki
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Vic H
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Andrea hi, thanks for your help...your finding this confusing! I have to keep going back pages of what I have then put a big line through what I can definately rule out & then start all over again, don't ya just love it.
Like now... I can rule out Holmes & Sally as my John Roberts parents....yeh! because I have John Robert Heaton in another place in 1871.... 1871 Census: Lodger 208 Stirling Rd, Glasgow Inner High, Lanarkshire. Scotland. Occup. Photographer.
Thankyou for the reminder that the death certs do not give me parents. I think in australian all the time our certs do have the parents (if known) .I have only 1 english d. cert (Vernon Jr). The occupation on the marriage cert is photographer. I have no alternative but to follow your lead & purchase the marr. cert. ta for the link.
Interesting note to close on tho.. Vernon Heaton b. Oct 1881 became a Master Tailor with a very big business Heaton Comapany Ltd in Newcastle area. His son Vernon jr also became a tailor.
cheers Vicki
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barryd
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I looked for the ancestry of John Robert Heaton without success. The lack of a death, marriage and birth/baptism made things very difficult.
Edna Heaton married for the second time in Marylebone, London, December Quarter 1939. Possibly at the famous Marylebone Register Office. Both the Heaton and Spraggon name are on the index. She may have died as Edna Wharton died February 2000. Berkshire, England. The death index indicated she was born 9 July 1915 which matches with the birth index for 1915, September Qtr 1915, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
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Vic H
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Hi barryd.
Having made the decision to finally get John Roberts marriage cert. you would not believe it but I cannot find a marriage for him to Sarah HALE!
From the freeBMD I have found a few marriage entries for a John Robert Heaton . Marrying a Elizabeth Ann Robinson or Margaret Cooper (not quite sure how to work out which one) in 1864 Burnley, to a Sarah Ann Riley, Sarah Ashworth, or Ellen Harrison in Burnley in 1880 & Elizabeth Ann Hargreaves or Alice Sims in Preston 1880 
I spent hours getting nowhere searching for a marriage of Sarah Hale to either a Riley or Ashworth, thinking that the "Sarah's" might have been a first marriage name. It is proving to be all too hard.
And just to complicate matters even further I have found a John Robert Heaton in 1851 Census Sample (not sure what this is) age 11 b. in Keighley, Y'Shire. in Habergham Eave, Lancashire, with a family of Heatons (not sure if it is his family).
thanks for looking, I havent given up so will kepp on searching, cheers from a cold & icy oz, Vicki
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winston
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HI Vic
that full entry for the 1851 census to which you've only seen the sample shows this family mistranscribed as Heston
Robert 50 mar' bn Habergham Eaves Occ Iron Moulder
Elizabeth 48 mar' bn ""
Reuben 24 son unmarried bn Haworth
Maria 21 daughter unmarried bn Haworth
John Robert 11 son unm' Keighley
but in the 1841 census living on Leeds Street Keighley, there is no mention of J R Heaton within the family names and both Robert and his wife now state they were born in County of Yorks.
So maybe you culd rule this family out...
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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barryd
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Published in the London Gazette 1898 a legal notice referring to Samuel Holland Heaton with enquires to John Robert Heaton. Samuel Robert Heaton born 1845 Bingley, Yorkshire and registered as born in the Keighley Registration District which includes Bingley. 1881 census states that Samuel Holland Heaton born in Bingley. SHH an IRON MOULDER. Place of death Oldham, Lancashire. No relationship or abode given for John Robert Heaton.
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Vic H
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hi barryd, thanks for the tit bit of info I have john robert as having died in 1898, so not exactly sure what this paper article means. In reading a newspaper article on Vernon Heaton' s death it states that he was "orphaned"  , but in 1898 Vernon would have been 17!! the mystery deepens.
Wendy, thanks for that info. I'm was not exactly sure what the census sample was. I did search the 1851 census but did not get the "heston" on my search with good match "star ratings", with all the family info entered (ancestry.com.au) , so did not delve deep enough. Not completley ruling out this family YET however.
ta both for the info, Vicki.
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barryd
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The John Robert Heaton that died in 1898 died in the Burnley, Lancashire area, possibly Habersham Eves.
A Sarah Heaton aged 40 died Sunderland area 1897.
Vernon Heaton was buried Jesmond Old Cemetery as the Obituary states. Cemetery Records give date of burial 16 Sep 1929. Double Grave. 6 feet deep.
The only person occupying the double grave with Vernon is Jane Ann Wainman (aged 86). Jane Ann Wainman (formerly Simpson) is Vernon's mother in law. Burial 20 October 1948.
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