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Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
« on: Friday 11 July 08 17:19 BST (UK) »

Can anyone help me trace KATE MINSON FRY (nee JAKINS) , please ,  last known address was 2 Ireland Terrace ,  Sculcoates in Jan 1908 . Believed to be born circa-1880-85
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Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:04 BST (UK) »

Does this help ?
Couldnt find any combo of the Jakins / Fry names - will try again with this lass.

Births Mar 1872 
 
JEAKINS  Katie Minson     Hitchin  Vol3a P342
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:06 BST (UK) »

Thats better !

Marriages Jun 1892   
 
Fry  Edward    Hull  Vol 9d P465    to  Jeakins  Kattie Minson     
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:07 BST (UK) »

Hello Andy

Is this the Kate Minson Jeakins who was married to Edward Fry ?

If so, that marriage was Q2. 1892 in Hull, and Katie would therefore have been born earlier than 1881 / 1885.

There is a birth registration for a Katie Minson Jeakins in 1872 in Hitchin, Hertfordshire.

Does this sound like the right person ?

Newf -  you got there just before me !
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:09 BST (UK) »

This is sounding VERY positive ! Thank you so very very much ! I'm researching this for a work colleague and only got a quick look at a poorly photocopied Birth Cert this morning .  The combo of Katie and Minson must be so unusal this has GOT to be her !

Watch this space !
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:12 BST (UK) »

Cant see her / them in the 1901 census - want her researched prior to marriage ?
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:16 BST (UK) »


Well, Here's Kattie with her family in 1881:

RG11. P. 1913  Fol. 45  Pg. 17

Blacksmith's Shop, Little Staughton, Beds.

JACKINS  (That is what the image appears to be)

Christopher  head  M  35  Blacksmith    B.  Beds. Little Staughton
Martha  Wife  M  34                               B. Hunts. Bluntisham
Kattie  Dau  10    Scholar                      B. Herts. Hexton
Charles  Son  7       ~                            B.   ~        ~
Christopher  Son  5   ~                          B.  Beds.  Little Staughton
Alfred  Son  3                                                ~           ~
Frederick  Son  9 mths.                                 ~            ~
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush.  Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham. Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:29 BST (UK) »

1891 - RG12/3942; Folio 116; Page 20 - Hull, Holy Trinity

5, Walcott Street / Terrace ?


The whole family has moved there ....


so the stage is set !


But there are no Edward Frys in Yorkshire in 1891 to my surprise !
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:37 BST (UK) »

Thanks again ! With the initial info I've come up with the same census info as above from ancestry.com ... but yes , where was Edward  . . . . ?
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Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:38 BST (UK) »


Goodness   Grin   What a complete porridge there - Hoxton, Hereford   Grin  etc.

I looked for the marriage of the parents - in case Martha was nee Minson.

The only one I can see is Christopher Jenkins  Q2. 1871 Hitchin  3a. 427, Martha Smith on the same page.

And if you try and track Christopher back - the surname name variations are legion!

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:41 BST (UK) »

1901 - RG13/4506; Folio: 153; Page: 19 - Hull, Holy Trinity
8, Walcott Terrace, Wallcott Street


(I should have seen them sooner - when looking at her dad Christopher at #18 !)

No HEAD shown ...

Cattie M Fry 29 Wife born Hereford, Hexton
Florence M Fry 4  dau Hull
Edward H Fry 1  son do
Annie E Fry 10 months  dau do


So Edward remains a mystery - might have to get the Marriage Cert
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 July 08 18:56 BST (UK) »

I've looked for Edwards of an age with Kattie - well, a bit older .... trying Lodgers / Boarders / Visitors / Seamen etc ...... nowt obvious linking one to Hull ....
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 July 08 19:24 BST (UK) »

I think Edward is born 1870 at Glandford Brigg Lincs.He can be found on 1881 RG11/4767/15/24 at 3 George Yard Kingston on Hull with father Edward aged 48  a widower and Dock side Labourer.


When searching the 1871 they are in Lincolnshire. Dad is 40 and Edward recorded as 7 but I think it is actually 1.
cant see them in 1891
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