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FraserandFraser
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The only way to check is to see if a claim has been made to the Probate registry for a grant, even the TS have to apply for grants so the older ones may have been taken out by them if no heirs were found. there is no complete list.
London Probate Department
PRFD, First Avenue House
42-49 High Holborn
Ground Floor
Holborn London
England
WC1V 6NP
How to obtain a copy of a will (recorded message with instructions) 020 7947 6983
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annieoburns
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Would the probate index books in Holborn include the intestate/unclaimed? Is there a separate set of books? The main ones are easy to use and alphabetical for each year. Could one just visit there an check in the open area or is this an inquiry to be handled by the staff and perhaps better done by post? What does TS stand for?
I checked there for my great grandfather and just because could find no record in years after his death, I assumed there was no will. This was later confirmed by York office
Anne
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Wiffen, Utton, Clark, Spires, Frisby, Raybould, Charlton, Green, (England)
Flood, Daly, Doran, Mc Kercher, Gardiner, (Ireland/England)
Reid, Burns (Ireland)
McGourty, Daly (Ireland/America)
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FraserandFraser
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TS is Treasury Solicitor
there is no easy way to search for a list of unclaimed monies, you can only search for the name of the person who has passed away.
We search 5 years for a probate, ie year of death plus 4
if you die intestate and leave currently more than £5k than a grant of letters of administration have to be take out these are listed in the same way as if there was a will that is probated.
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annieoburns
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That is interesting about smaller estates not being registered.
That was probably the case with the great grandfather who had a simple buriel and no headstone. When he died his only child was this great uncle who lived with him, never married and was disabled. My father was reared by his mother's family as she was a WW1 widow and had little to do with his father's side. He also lived outside UK for working life.
The obvious starting point is to find a record of his death but I have not had success there... must be somewhere as born in 1904!
Remember Heirhunters is on EVERY morning at 9 15am. My link button to record series will not work so have to make an effort to catch it. I thought the ones so far viewed are better productions with less repetition than previous years. Obviously they are produced for commercial stations and can be seen to break down into chunks for possible ad breaks. These ones seem better edited though.
Anne
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Wiffen, Utton, Clark, Spires, Frisby, Raybould, Charlton, Green, (England)
Flood, Daly, Doran, Mc Kercher, Gardiner, (Ireland/England)
Reid, Burns (Ireland)
McGourty, Daly (Ireland/America)
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skb
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I thought the ones so far viewed are better productions with less repetition than previous years. Obviously they are produced for commercial stations and can be seen to break down into chunks for possible ad breaks. These ones seem better edited though.
Anne
I agree. I like the way they're including more background and historical context this time.
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Byers (Salford & London) Stringfellow (Salford & Chorley) Holmes (Manchester & Birmingham) Goulding/Golden (Birmingham & Lincolnshire) Bassett (Manchester & Salford) Child (Lincolnshire) Belshaw (Salford) Hallsworth (Eccles & Salford) Vernon (Bury) Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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mother25
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The latest new series is now showing at 9.15a.m. on BBC 1 weekdays. The first programme was shown last Monday 29th June, so there's still time to catch up on BBC i-player if you've missed it 
So far it's a good series and I am particularly looking forward to tomorrow's show as it has connections with a family member. Nothing to do with me as the connection is by marriage many years ago 
The format is better this time, and anyone who has done any family research will know that collecting certificates doesn't really happen as quickly and easily as it seems
Nevertheless I think the Heir Hunters have the best job, and I'm sure they all enjoy their work most of the time.
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kerryb
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I'm loving the format of the new series, have been recording it and watching instead of the news each evening. The new historical bits of information and smaller segments have even got my OH watching who normally shuns anything to do with family history.
The BBC have really got it right this time in my humble opinion 
Fraser and Fraser always look incredibly busy on the TV, and its also nice to see some fresh faces amongst the now well known ones!
Kerry
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Nick29
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I wonder if Neil from F & F (or anyone else) can answer a question ...... in a case where there are several beneficiaries that have been traced, what happens if some people agree to sign the agreement with you, and some don't ? Surely the claim has to be made on behalf of all the claimants, doesn't it ? This always has me wondering whenever I see a case on Heir Hunters when there's lots of beneficiaries.
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Best Wishes, Nick. Research interests: Field - Luton & Islington Hole - Somerset, Suffolk & Surrey Farnish, Parker, Cattermole, Last, Wasp, Church - Suffolk Lewin/Lowin/Lowen - Hertfordhire Martin - Eltham & Greenwich, Kent (London) Stead - Greenwich, London (Kent) & Maidstone Wood - Hertfordshire Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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mother25
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I don't know of course, but I vaguely recall from one of the series of programmes that someone did decline and decided he could do his own research, but that was after he had been told there was a possibility of him inheriting. Prior to that he had no idea who the relative was who had died  I thought that was a bit churlish after F&F had done a lot of the research already 
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mother25
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Really enjoyed today's programme. I felt so sorry for that lady who got absolutely nothing because her sister-in-law/best friend just hadn't made a will. The beneficiaries were blood relatives and the poor woman was obviously very upset by it all, especially because the bungalow had originally been in her family for many years, but of course when her brother died his wife inherited and then her blood relatives after her death.
I would say this programme should convince anyone who hasn't yet made a will to do so without delay. It doesn't cost much but it will make life so much easier for your relatives after your death, and of course your wishes will be carried out as you wanted.
My connection was with Ernest Phythian, which was another interesting tale. I don't know all the details as it concerns a cousin and she hasn't told me the full story...possibly because it's complicated and she may not know it all
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dobfarm
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Granny Tidmarsh (Maiden name Mary Fletcher b1874 )
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Hi, I'm wondering if I can (probably) be a pest, and ask ...
My Gt-gt-grandfather left his estate to be divided between his three children; two daughters, who never married ... and my gt-grandfather who had emigrated to Australia. The will stated that gt-grandfather's share would be waiting for him when he returned to England ... but having married, and fathered a huge brood of children, he never did return to England.
Obviously, my question is ... what would have happened to his third share of his father's estate? Could my late grandmother's tales of "money in Chancery" have any basis in fact?
Hi
I would contact the legal people!! on that! if its more resent times, But if he had a huge brood of sibling, I think any money will be well spread/shared out even with interests on the money of his share of the will
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Derbyshire, Warwick. Yorkshire, Stafford and Worcestershire.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth.
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Nick29
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Hi, I'm wondering if I can (probably) be a pest, and ask ...
My Gt-gt-grandfather left his estate to be divided between his three children; two daughters, who never married ... and my gt-grandfather who had emigrated to Australia. The will stated that gt-grandfather's share would be waiting for him when he returned to England ... but having married, and fathered a huge brood of children, he never did return to England.
Obviously, my question is ... what would have happened to his third share of his father's estate? Could my late grandmother's tales of "money in Chancery" have any basis in fact?
You need to find out who was the executor of the will - you should be able to find this out from the UK Probate Office. It's quite possible that the money is still being held by a solicitor, and this will have been attracting interest, so could well be a tidy amount.
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Best Wishes, Nick. Research interests: Field - Luton & Islington Hole - Somerset, Suffolk & Surrey Farnish, Parker, Cattermole, Last, Wasp, Church - Suffolk Lewin/Lowin/Lowen - Hertfordhire Martin - Eltham & Greenwich, Kent (London) Stead - Greenwich, London (Kent) & Maidstone Wood - Hertfordshire Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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