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castana1985
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Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« on: Saturday 12 July 08 18:46 UTC (UK) »
Hi

I have two ancestors that I'm trying to find more about.

Robert Jones c.1813 born Llanfawr
Martha Jones c1811 born Gwyddelwern

I believe they were married in Gwyddelwern in 1839, then in the 1841 & 1851 census they are living at the Eagles Inn, Corwen.

If anyone is in the area, ccould you look their baptisms up?? I'd like to trace their parents, siblings etc.

Many Thanks

Tracy
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 July 08 20:12 UTC (UK) »
Hi Tracey

I'll check my records for you in a short while, if no one else has offered. I'm a bit busy at the moment but it shouldn't take long.

I have the records up to 1812  Smiley

It would be nice if your Martha was my Margaret's little sister  Smiley


Best regards


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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 12 July 08 20:46 UTC (UK) »
Nothing for Martha in Gwyddelwern.

Two possibles for Robert in Llanfawr:

13 August 1811 s/o Edward and Frances Jones  of Ciltalgarth
21 June 1812 s/o David and Ellin of Penmaen.


I think it might be worth seeing if Paul could find any others. I'll PM him  Smiley


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castana1985
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 July 08 20:57 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Gadget

How do I determine which is the correct one?
Can I find siblings?

Thanks for your help!

Tracy
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 12 July 08 21:14 UTC (UK) »
Hi Tracey

At the moment we can't be sure if either of them is your Robert  Undecided 

I think it might be best to wait until Paul checks for any others and go from there. I see that you've not found a marriage for them yet. This might well give you info on their parents or witnesses that might give more clues.


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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 July 08 21:32 UTC (UK) »
There is a marriage at Gwyddelwern, St. Bueno in 1839 which could be them?? Huh
I should really send off for this certificate, to see if it is the right one.

Tracy
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 July 08 21:41 UTC (UK) »
It looks a very strong possible and will give you parents names. I think, if it was me, I would have ordered it already.

When and where was their first child born?


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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 July 08 21:43 UTC (UK) »
Here's a piccture that I took of St Beuno a few years ago:
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 July 08 21:53 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: castana1985 on Saturday 12 July 08 21:32 UTC (UK)
There is a marriage at Gwyddelwern, St. Bueno in 1839 which could be them?? Huh
I should really send off for this certificate, to see if it is the right one.

Tracy

Or you could wait for me to have a look and save yourself a few quid Grin
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castana1985
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 12 July 08 21:54 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Saturday 12 July 08 21:43 UTC (UK)
Here's a piccture that I took of St Beuno a few years ago:



Gadget, that's fantastic. What a great picture and such a beautiful church!
If I wanted to check the records there, where would I find them?

Tracy
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castana1985
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 12 July 08 21:54 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Paul on Saturday 12 July 08 21:53 UTC (UK)
Quote from: castana1985 on Saturday 12 July 08 21:32 UTC (UK)
There is a marriage at Gwyddelwern, St. Bueno in 1839 which could be them?? Huh
I should really send off for this certificate, to see if it is the right one.

Tracy

Or you could wait for me to have a look and save yourself a few quid Grin

That would be great!! Thanks Paul.
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 12 July 08 21:55 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Paul on Saturday 12 July 08 21:53 UTC (UK)
Quote from: castana1985 on Saturday 12 July 08 21:32 UTC (UK)
There is a marriage at Gwyddelwern, St. Bueno in 1839 which could be them?? Huh
I should really send off for this certificate, to see if it is the right one.

Tracy

Or you could wait for me to have a look and save yourself a few quid Grin



.... as long as the church record has the parents' names, Paul  Smiley


Tracy - I've found Paul for you - what else do you want  Grin Grin Grin
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castana1985
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 July 08 21:57 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Saturday 12 July 08 21:41 UTC (UK)
It looks a very strong possible and will give you parents names. I think, if it was me, I would have ordered it already.

When and where was their first child born?


Gadget

Margaret was their first born in c1840 in Corwen.
Robert and Martha are listed in the 1841 census at the Eagles Inn.
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 July 08 22:00 UTC (UK) »
The Gwyddelwern one is the only Martha/Robert pairing that I can see around that time and vicinity  on the N Wales BMD  Smiley
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Re: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 12 July 08 22:01 UTC (UK) »
Presumably the marriage record will help find Martha's roots??? do you think??

Lets hope they lead to your Margaret, Gadget! Grin

Thanks again both of you.

Tracy
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