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Topic: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting? (Read 1668 times)
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maggiefishblue
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Hi Charlie and Anne,
I know very little about the Woodhouse other than was posted by Melissa - perhaps the Records Office in Gloucester might have copies of the deeds etc. that would establish ownership over a period of time? I haven't been able to visit the RO as yet but hope to in the futuire at some point - it's on my list 
Charlie,
I have copies of the wills of my great x4 grandparents, both of whom gave their address as The Woodhouse - but there is no mention in either will of ownership ....
The first will, that of Richard Staite, was drawn up in 1795 and proved in 1798. In it Richard bequeaths "all the Rest Residue and Remainder of my monies Securities for Money Goods Chattels Estate and Efects whatsoever and whosoever ...." to be divided between his wife Mary and nephew Richard Staite (who was living with him at the time) but it does not say specifically the house. Richard and Mary had only one surviving daughter who married into the Dowdeswell family and Richard bequeaths money in trust to his grandson.
The second will is that of Mary Staite (Richard's widow) drawn up in 1798 and proved in 1807. When the will was drawn up Mary was still at the Woodhouse and in it she bequeathed "remainder of my Monies Securities for Money Goods Chattels Personal Estate and Effects whatsoever and whosoever ...." to the same nephew Richard Staite who was living with her at the Woodhouse. Again, no specific mention of the property.
I have not, so far, been able to trace the nephew Richard Staite with any certainty because it is quite a common name in those parts, so don't know how long he would have remained there. However, it would look as if he didn't remain for long if your ancestor was there in 1815, unless of course your ancestor owned the Woodhouse and mine leased it from him .....
It's all very interesting isn't it? Every now and again another small piece fits into the puzzle
Maggie
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I am researching:
~ Gamble, Hincks, Grewcock, Grant, Leeson, Wright - Leicestershire/Warwickshire
~ Bywater - Warwickshire, Cheshire, Staffordshire
~ Crisp, Smith, Dowdeswell, Griffin, Stayt/Stait/Staite, Carpenter, Blizzard/Blissard - Gloucestershire
~ Bladder, Carter - Worcestershire
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AlanBudden
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What a fascinating message thread! Particularly as I have recently made some connections g1, g2 and g3 grandparents in Guiting.
Emily Ellen Carter born 1862 Guiting married James Brown in Cheltenham in 1882.
Her father was George Carter born 1838 Guiting Power. He married Prudence Davis in 1861. Prudence was born in Maugersbury, Stow-on-the-Wold in 1842. I have George and Prudence in various censuses but can't find them in 1881 or separately in 1841. Any hints?
George's father was Joseph born 1793 in Guiting and married an Elizabeth c1822.
Now for the real point of this post, how do you pronounce GUITING?
Alan
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maggiefishblue
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Hi Alan,
Welcome to Rootschat
The original spelling was Guyting - so I think that must be how it should be pronounced (although I tend to say Gitting  )
Maggie
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I am researching:
~ Gamble, Hincks, Grewcock, Grant, Leeson, Wright - Leicestershire/Warwickshire
~ Bywater - Warwickshire, Cheshire, Staffordshire
~ Crisp, Smith, Dowdeswell, Griffin, Stayt/Stait/Staite, Carpenter, Blizzard/Blissard - Gloucestershire
~ Bladder, Carter - Worcestershire
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AlanBudden
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Thanks Maggie. And I have just found Maria Davis, a sweeps widow and pauper with 5 children, one of whom is Prudence!
Regards
Alan
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charlieblue
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Hi again,
Trying to make sense of this copy of the will I have of William Arkell died 1815. It begins "This is the last will & testament of William Arkell of the Woodhouse in the parish of Temple Guiting in the county of Gloucester, Gentleman. First I give and bequeath unto my dear wife Hannah the sum of three hundred pounds to be paid to her as soon as convenient.......And I also give & bequeath to my said wife Hannah all such parts of my household goods and furniture and other effects which were given to her by her late parents who resided at Grimley in the county of Worcester............
And I give devise and bequeath to my brother in law John Walker of Guiting Power in the County of Gloucester aforesaid Gentleman, all and singular the Messuage or Tenement together with all and every the lands ...........(word here I cannot make out) and premises there to belonging called the Woodhouse farm situated in the parish of Temple Guiting aforesaid and all and singular other my freehold copyhold and leasehold messuages lands tenements and real estate whatsoever and of what tenure or quality so ever which I now am or at the time of my death shall be seized or possessed respectively of or in any manner intitled to or interested .....either in possession conversion remainder or expectancy and at law of in equity and also all my ready monies, securities for money and all my farming stock, implements in husbandry chattels and personal estate and effects whatsover........... it goes on for several pages like this. I presumed they owned the Woodhouse because of what it says in this will but I am not so sure now after reading other peoples comments here. Interesting isn't it! Maureen (charlieblue)
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maggiefishblue
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Hi Maureen,
It certainly is interesting
From what you have here I would also think that William Arkell owned the Woodhouse. When was the will drawn up? I'm thinking the date you have was when it was proven. If it was drawn up before my ancestor died in 1807 then I should think that my ancestors rented the place from him .... My ancestor, Richard Staite, was also a 'gentleman' - but as you see from what I copied, he didn't appear to own any property - just land and securities.
Intriguing indeed
Maggie
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I am researching:
~ Gamble, Hincks, Grewcock, Grant, Leeson, Wright - Leicestershire/Warwickshire
~ Bywater - Warwickshire, Cheshire, Staffordshire
~ Crisp, Smith, Dowdeswell, Griffin, Stayt/Stait/Staite, Carpenter, Blizzard/Blissard - Gloucestershire
~ Bladder, Carter - Worcestershire
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charlieblue
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Hi Maggie,
Sorry I am a little late in replying to your question about when my ancestor's will was written etc. It was written 9th March, 1815 and proved on 5th October, 1815. William Arkell died in July 1815. So it looks like your ancestor lived there before mine.
Regards, Maureen (charlieblue)
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sghague
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Like others I am new to this thread but found it as a result of seeking information about Woodhouse in Temple Guiting/Guiting Power. I am a doctoral student at Oxford working on a group of about eighty smaller Georgian houses and their families in Gloucestershire between 1680 and 1760. Woodhouse is one of those houses on my list, which I identified from the National Monuments Record website (www.images ofengland.co.uk). The number is 128768. It is also covered briefly (from an architectural perspective) in the Buildings of England series, Gloucestershire 1: The Cotswolds, p 395. I have not yet done a great deal of research on this house, but was doing field work recently to have a preliminary look at it. I did not know exactly where the house was located and could not find it so the discussion of mapping was very helpful.
In any event, I am particularly interested to know more about the house's builders/owners earlier in the C18, and was fascinated with the work of some of those who have posted messages. Has anyone traced their ancestry, as residents of Woodhouse, earlier than the 1790s? If anyone has further information about the history of the house or the families who built or occupied it earlier in the C18 I would be very grateful.
Also, it might interest some that a similar structure that is part of my study, Barton House, located a short distance away at Barton seems to be having expansive building conservation work done (see below). I wonder if there might have been any connection between the two. If anyone knows anything about that it would interest me as well.
Finally, would it be worth writing to the Guiting Manor Amenity Trust for further information?
Very many thanks,
Stephen
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Arranroots
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Hi Stephen
Welcome to Rootschat!
I will leave those concerned to answer your specific queries but I suggest that you make a second posting on the Gloucestershire board requesting information, as this post might be overlooked as it occurs in the middle of a thread.
You might get more custom that way!
Good luck with your project - keep us informed.
(Note that we usually discourage duplicate posting but there doesn't seem to be any danger of duplication of effort in responding in this instance!)
Kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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