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Topic: Stapleton Workhouse............................ (Read 1058 times)
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Helina
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Hebe
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Searching for the birth of Elizabeth Coole. Have found her in the 1881/1891/1901 census as a Resident (prefere that term than inmate) at Stapleton Workhouse Bristol. I,ve her death certificate which shows she died in 1904 at the workhouse age 37. So according to the census she was born in Bristol in 1867 and the age she died makes that correct. Cannot find her anywhere in the 1871 census. When born there is a possibility that her surname was Richards.
Any help would be appreciated.
helina
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Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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charlotteCH
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helina, This doesn't give you any direct info but would give background and be interesting ... why not put the name of the owrkhouse into google and see what comes up- you may well get a pic.
I googled Workshouse In Yks and it was most interesting stuff.
charlotte
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HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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Old Bristolian
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Ada & Joan
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Hi Helina
I assume she was Elizabeth Coole in 1881 - can you give us any reason why you think she may have been Elizabrth Richards at birth?
Steve
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Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey - Oxfordshire
Street, Cave - Gloucestershire
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Emery, Clavey - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
McLennan, Mackintosh - Inverness
Williams, Jones - Angelsey & Caernarvon
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Old Bristolian
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Ada & Joan
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Helina,
I think I've answered my question in the last post - I've found Eliza Coole, daughter of George Richards in 1871, and also the marriage Eliza Richards & John Coole Jun q 1870.
I've checked the Residents list in 1871 for Stapleton, both Bristol City & Clifton Union as well as the Orphans House. Couldn't find Elizabeth Coole or Richards. I notice there were no orphans of such a young age and no children in the workhouses of that age, without a mother. What happened to such young children then - was there a foundling hospital in Bristol? Or perhaps the family hid her away on Census night!
Steve
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Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey - Oxfordshire
Street, Cave - Gloucestershire
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Emery, Clavey - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
McLennan, Mackintosh - Inverness
Williams, Jones - Angelsey & Caernarvon
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Helina
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Hebe
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Hi Steve,
Eliza Richards and John Coole were my grandparents, who married in 1870. John Coole was in the Navy and just wondered if Elizabeth was born before 1870. John was 29 when he married.
Another thing the family always had a idea that they had 8 children but up to now can only find 7.
helina
ps Thanks for replying.
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Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Old Bristolian
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Ada & Joan
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Hi Helina
Its a puzzle - if the Elizabeth Coole of the 1881 & later workhouse Censuses was the child of Eliza & John, born prior to their marriage, it seems odd she was not accepted as part of the family - but if John was not the father why should she be named Coole? Sad that we can't find any Elizabeth Coole to fit the part
Steve
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Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey - Oxfordshire
Street, Cave - Gloucestershire
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Emery, Clavey - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
McLennan, Mackintosh - Inverness
Williams, Jones - Angelsey & Caernarvon
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Helina
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Hebe
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Yes Steve,its very sad that is another reason I would like to find where she came from even if there is no connection. Elizabeth was a epileptic by the way that maybe the reason.
helina
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Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Old Bristolian
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Ada & Joan
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Its a very sad story altogether isn't it Helina? I checked the later census records & spotted "Epileptic" in 1891 & "imbecile" in 1901 - that sounds barbaric even by Workhouse standards. Did she decline in mental health or was the ennumerator/management of the workhouse not able to distinguish?
I also noted in 1881 that her place of birth was Redcliffe - not that it helps much when you can't find anyone to fit the bill
Steve
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Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey - Oxfordshire
Street, Cave - Gloucestershire
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Emery, Clavey - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
McLennan, Mackintosh - Inverness
Williams, Jones - Angelsey & Caernarvon
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Helina
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Hebe
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Hi Steve,
On her death certificate it stated she died of a epileptic fit. If I.m correct registering of births was not enforced until the 1870s.
helina
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Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Reayboy
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Hi Helina and fellow chatters! 
Something of interest as I am never ceased to be amazed at how small the world is.
My 4x gt grandmother was in Stapleton in 1881. She is down as C.Werthime (Wertheim) and is listed as Lunatic. She wasn't...she was only there because nobody could afford to put her up in the family.
I've learned not to assme that when I find somebody in the workhouse, poverty and hardship may not have as a big a part to play in them being there than perhaps we'd like (or not like! to think).
As for terms such as imbecile and lunatic, people didn't mince their words eh? We are privedged to live in a world without workhouses and diagnosis!
Keep seeking and you shall find. Sad story though it seems, I can't help but be interested by it.
Reay.
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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Helina
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Hebe
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Thanks for your message, Reay, I.m no where forward regarding Elizabeth Coole and to be honest I,m stuck.
But thanks for your thoughts.
helina
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Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Helina
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Hebe
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sft456
I'll be interested to hear what reply you get. Thanks for sending a e-mail to the record office.
helina
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Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Old Bristolian
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Ada & Joan
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I think that both the City of Bristol workhouse & the Barton Regis Union workhouse were in the Stapleton area, very close to each other - I think you can find an excellent site which gives details if you Goolge "workhouses"
Steve
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Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey - Oxfordshire
Street, Cave - Gloucestershire
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Emery, Clavey - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
McLennan, Mackintosh - Inverness
Williams, Jones - Angelsey & Caernarvon
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