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Bethnal Green Lookup
« on: Tuesday 15 July 08 19:55 BST (UK) »

My Great grandmother Eleanor Forder married Alfred Ball in Bethnal Green 27th Dec 1873

Her father is named as William Forder (deceased) on the marriage certificate, and there isn't an address of residence entered in that section, just Bethnal Green.

His father is named Charles Ball - Occupation Tinplate worker.

How do I find out where their  familes lived at the time of the wedding?
Do I need to check parish records for these details?

Any help or guidance would be very useful.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Bethnal Green Lookup
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 July 08 21:23 BST (UK) »

Hi, Have tried to pick the families up on the 1871 & 1861 census.

The only Eleanor Forder I could find in 1871 census was a lodger in Greenwich ref 755/57

Eleanor Ann Forder 23 Machinist born Hampshire?

The machinist could fit with the 1881 census shirt maker?



I could only track down a Helena Ball in the 1891 census 8 Lever Street St.Lukes

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Helena Ball 20 General Serv. Domestic born St.Lukes
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Re: Bethnal Green Lookup
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 July 08 21:56 BST (UK) »

The parish record of the marriage will have exactly the same as on the marriage certificate. Who were the witnesses? If these weren't relatives they might be people lodging in the same house, or coworkers.

It appears that in 1861 Eleanor Forder was in the Central London District School.

In 1861 this may be the Balls:

RG9/216 66/24
11 Cock Lane, St. Sepulchre
Charles Ball, 46, tin plate worker, b. Devon Stonehouse
Matilda, 39, wife, b. Devon Honiton
Charles, 17, son, apprentice to ditto, b. Surrey Southwark
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Alfred, 12, son, errand boy, b. London Bow
Lucy, 9, dau, scholar, b. London St. Brides

(in 1871 Charles and Matilda are in St. James Clerkenwell, only child at home is Lucy, now married and with a daughter, Alice Matilda Cosier. Mr Cosier is not in the household.)
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Re: Bethnal Green Lookup
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 July 08 22:28 BST (UK) »

Hi, If this is the family here they are in 1851

1557/403 37 Surrey Row

Charles Ball 36 Tin Plate Worker born Stonehouse Devon
Matilda 29 Honiton Devon

1563/172  84 Kent Street Southwark

James Cobham 58 Oilman born Bermonsey
Elizabeth 59 Chitsfield?Kent
Mary Ann 21 Marylebone
Charles Ball 7 visitor born St.Lukes
Alfred Ball 3 visitor born St.Mary le Bow
Mary Thomas 14 visitor Lambeth

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Re: Bethnal Green Lookup
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 July 08 11:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Jennifer C & Jorose,

Hi to you both, sorry for the delay in responding to your messages, been away for the weekend.

On message no 1 The Eleanor Ann Forder born Hampshire, her father's name was Henry Forder.
                             My Eleanor Forder's father was William.
The witnesses of the marriage are Lucy Ball and L Harwood

On message no 2 The first names Alfred & Lucy/Louisa occur as family names, as Lucy Ball was a witness at the wedding of Alfred to Eleanor.  Not sure about the rest of the information but the places, St Luke's, St Mary le Bow, Lambeth are areas near where family members were living.

Thanks to you both for giving me some information I didn't know, I will keep it in mind for future reference.

Dad never mentioned any relatives coming from Devon, but maybe he never knew. He always maintained they came from Yorkshire, but so far nothing has come to light to confirm that one way or the other.

Cheerio for now Gossip64

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