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blodwen
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Hi Joe,
just had a look under FamilySearch and found the following:
William Twitchin b. 12. Aug 1817 chr. 17. Sept 1817 at
St. Mary, St. Marlyebone Road, Saint Marlyebone, London, England.
Parents: JOSHUA Twitchin, and Mary  ??
This is an extracted birth or christening record for the locality listedi n the record.
Don't know if this helps
Viv
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Gywnedd/Caernarvonshire: Roberts, Evans; Glamorganshire: Griffiths, Thomas; Middlesex: Sibley, Barnett; Beds: Sibley Kent: Jury, Hunt; Yorkshire/Middlesbrough: Wright, Sullivan; Irleand/Cork: Donovan, Sullivan; Census information is crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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joboy
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Hi Joe, just had a look under FamilySearch and found the following: William Twitchin b. 12. Aug 1817 chr. 17. Sept 1817 at St. Mary, St. Marlyebone Road, Saint Marlyebone, London, England. Parents: JOSHUA Twitchin, and Mary ?? This is an extracted birth or christening record for the locality listedi n the record. Don't know if this helps Viv
The only lead I have is the Pallots entry for Marylbone that does not include a groom.
Joe
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carol8353
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Joe
The link you give is to a page of Ancestry on the Australian indexes,so if you only have UK subscription you can't view it 
Putting Twitchin in the Pallots marriage index here doesn't show any at all.
Can you be a bit more specific- what name were you searching under?
Regards
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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blodwen
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Hi Joe,
As I previously posted, I can only find
William Twitchin b. 1817 St. Marylebone with the parents:
JOSHUA Twitchin and Mary. There is no surname for Mary.
I have also found another son, Joshua Twitchin, 17. Aug 1823 St. Mary, Lambeth, London with same parents (JOSHUA and Mary - again no surname).
Where do you have that William George Twitchin's parents are William George Twitchin and Mary Killick, please.
I have found a William Twitchen, chr. 8. Mar 1818, Micheldever, Hampshire, England with parents William and Mary. Any good??
Viv
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Gywnedd/Caernarvonshire: Roberts, Evans; Glamorganshire: Griffiths, Thomas; Middlesex: Sibley, Barnett; Beds: Sibley Kent: Jury, Hunt; Yorkshire/Middlesbrough: Wright, Sullivan; Irleand/Cork: Donovan, Sullivan; Census information is crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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joboy
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Viv ....... you have spotted my 'deliberate mistake' (grin) I am an old fool who used to be able to concentrate better.
The father was indeed Joshua and he married Mary Killick (dont know where or when) and they had the following children;
William George 1817 Marylebone
John 1819 Lambeth
Ann 1821 Lambeth
Joshua 1823 Lambeth
James Francis 1825 Brixton
Thomas 1829 Brixton
Robert 1831 Brixton
Mary Jane 1833 Brixton
Jane 1835 Brixton
John 1838 Brixton
Fortunately John (1838) was born after civil registration and from his BC I was able to determine the mother's maiden name.
The parish records for the rest of the births gave no indication of her maiden name.
Mary .. the mother came from Coulsdon SRY and was a tutor and a few of the children (William George 1817 included) went through life as educators whilst most of the others followed their father's trade as butchers.
I have tried looking in the Lambeth records without success which does not concern me as the name lends itself to being mangled.
The best lead yet is that Pallots entry without a groom which has three numbers on it each of which are encircled ... what this signifies I have no idea.
I purchased from IHGS an extraction of pallots marriages with all the variations I could think of and got about 40 some of which were quite uiseful but there was no record of the marriage I am after.
Long story and I could go further but I have probably bored you enough by now.
Thanks for your kind interest.
Joe
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carol8353
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I don't know if you've spotted this,but Dawnsh is doing LMA look ups.
If you start a new posting heading it LMA look up please,and the names,Dawn will add you too her list,although with school holidays fast approaching over here I have no idea when she next plans to go or how many are already on her list 
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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blodwen
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Okay Joe - at least we have got that sorted out
Found the Pallots marriage extraction - unfortunately I have no idea what the numbers could mean 
You might have luck with Carol's suggestion, and I will try and find any info that might be helpful.
Good luck
Viv
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Gywnedd/Caernarvonshire: Roberts, Evans; Glamorganshire: Griffiths, Thomas; Middlesex: Sibley, Barnett; Beds: Sibley Kent: Jury, Hunt; Yorkshire/Middlesbrough: Wright, Sullivan; Irleand/Cork: Donovan, Sullivan; Census information is crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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joboy
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Thanks Dawn ...... I hope the task is not too burdensome.
Joe in Sydney
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dawnsh
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Hi Joe
Re Marriages at St Marylebone, the Harleian Society have been busy and they have published indexes for 1796-1812, but there is no suitable match there.
There are also typed indexes at the LMA upto 1815 but there is no match there.
So I looked through the marriage register for 1816, after 850 marriages there is nothing there
the same again for 1817, 831 marriages later, still no match.
I did look at the baptism for 1817 and the only things to add are that the abode is shown as St Marylebone and Joshua's 'Quality, Trade or Profession' is shown as Trade which is of very little help.
Dawn
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSherry-Paddington & Marylebone, Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley, Chandler-Chelsea |
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joboy
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Well thank you for trying Dawn ...... I guess this will go down as one of those 'enduring mysteries'.
Perhaps they did not marry? .. it has happened although I prefer to guess that my peculiar surname has been mangled yet again.
Joe
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joboy
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Thanks Dawn ......... if you are going to follow this up then favourite variants are Twitchem,Twitching,Tutchin (plenty of Tutchins in Holborn ........ all really Twitchin's though.
Silcock ........... my involvement is via Susannah Flower who married Simon Bonnet Silcock and set up shop in NZ where there are plenty now.
Good Hunting,
Joe
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