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Topic: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please (Read 156 times)
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Elektra
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I'm looking for Ellen Deborah Pitcher born c1853/1854 in Shernborne. She may be known as Deborah.
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Anjo
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Here they are
Thomas Pitcher Head Mar 34 Ag lab b. Shernbourne Mary A " Wife Mar 28 b. " Deborah " dau 6 b. " Sulim " son 3 b. " Thomas " son 10mts b. "
Living Docking Rd, Shernbourne.
Sulim -- I have never heard of this name but the writing is clear and no matter how I tried to change the letters I always came back to this. I wondered if he his name was Solomn and this was the enumerators attempt?
There are a few other pitcher families in shernbourne would you like their details??
Let me know all the best Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Elektra
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Hi Angela
Many thanks for this.
I really should get Deborah's marriage certificate to confirm her father's name was Thomas, although I doubt there are any other Deborah Pitchers of that age born in Sherborne.
Althought her name on 1881,1891 was Ellen D she did use the name Deborah. Also her birth ref appears to be Deborah. Need to see if I can find a baptism to see where the name Ellen came from.
Sulim's name is transcribed as Selim on 1871 census.
Yes please if it is not too much trouble could I have the other Pitcher's. It may laed to a previous generation.
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Nina
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Anjo
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hi Nina just going through the census now. Will post them within the hour ok. do you want me to track them back in the 1851 and 1841?? It would be no bother as I need a break from my own research or else I might smash my computer. I am glad to look for some different people.
All the best Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Angela
That would be wonderful if you could.
I've updated my post above - I'm pretty sure it is the right family as some of the names and places on later census are starting to fit with family tales.
According to freebmd I think Thomas married Mary Ann Andrews in 1852.
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Nina
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Right here goes then. Here are the families in 1861 all living in Shernbourne
Robert Pitcher H 36 Ag lab b. Shernbourne Mary Pitcher W39 b. Measenham Robert Pitcher S 10 " (See below) Ruth Pitcher D 7 b. Shernbourne Frederick " S 5 " Mary " D 3 " Barnabas " s 6mts "
Hall farm cottages Robert was deaf and dumb from birth ***************************** John Pitcher h 46 ag Lab b. Shernbourne Martha " w 40 b. Flitcham John " s 19 b. Ingoldisthorpe Caroline " d 13 b. Shernbourne Agnes " d 10 b. Shernbourne Matilda " d 9 b. Shernbourne Charles " Brother 29 Ag Lab b. Shernbourne Margaret " "s Wife 22 b. Flitcham Charles " Granson 2 b. Shernbourne John " " 10mts b. Shernbourne
The last 2 should be nephews but I think the enumerator got a bit confused Cottages, Church Lane **********************************
William Pitcher H 59 Ag lab b. Snettisham James Carip?? Bro in law 45 b. Snettisham Tailor Anne " Sister 49 b. Shernbourne Susannah " Niece 9 b. Shernbourne.
Lots of crossing outs on this one enumerator getting confused again. Cottages, Church Lane
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James Pitcher H 31 Ag Lab b. Shernbourne Joclyn " W 37 b. Sedgeford Elizabeth M Jones Wifes dau 11 b. Sedgeford
Cottages, Church Lane *************************** Robert Pitcher H 44 Ag lab b. Shernbourne Jane " W44 " Philip " s 13 Ag lab " John " s 10 ag lab " Elizabeth " d 7 "
Cottages Docking rd, ***************************** James Pitcher 38 Ag lab b. shernbourne Dinah Pitcher 35 " Matalia " 10 b. Dersingham Harriet " 8 b. " Jarvis " 6 b. " Walter " 1 b. "
Cottages (thats all it gave!)
So now that should keep you busy while I have a look on the other census ok.
Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Forgot this one
Kezia Pitcher 18 unmarried Nurse Maid (serv) to John Willimason - farmer - and family Cottages, Docking rd, Shernbourne.
Brace yourself the 1851 are coming............
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Here are the 1851
Robert Pitcher H 76 Lab b. Shernbourne Susan Pitcher W 66 b. Snettisham William Pitcher S 43 Lab b. Snettisham Ann Pitcher D 33 b. Shernbourne Susan Pitcher D 29 b. Shernbourne THOMAS " S 24 Lab " James " S 21 Lab " Charles " S 20 Lab " Henry " S 17 Farm boy " Robert " Gson 13 Farm boy " Georgianna Pitcher Gdau 4 B. Docking workhouse. (Poor kid) Only address is Shernbourne, Docking Looks like you have found Deborah's grandparents!?
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John Pitcher Head 35 Lab b. Snettisham Martha " Wife 30 b. Flitcham Margaret " Dau 12 b. Flitcham John F. " Son 10 b. Ingoldisthorpe Kezia " Dau 7 b. Shernbourne Caroline " Dau 4 " Agnes " Dau 1 " John Massham Lodg 20 b. Bircham,nfk
Living Shernbourne, Docking
Could this be the Margaret that Johns brother Charles married?? Uncle marrying niece is unusal but did happen??
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Jane Pitcher Head Married33 Labourers wife b.Shernbourne James N " Son 9 " Philip " Son 3 " John " son 2 "
Living Shernbourne, Docking
I found a married Robert Pitcher age 28 shepherd lodging with Carter family, Kings Head West Bradenham, Swaffham No other family with him so I think this is Janes hubby. (He was born in Shernbourne)
There was another Robert age 27 also born in Shernbourne but stated as unmarried he was working as a servant (groom) for Anna Maria Kendall a farmer of 600 acres. Living in Shernbourne
I found a Ann Pitcher 22 b. Shernbourne, unmarried housemaid for John Lambert (shopkeeper) living Snettisham, Docking
Also found this family
Winifred Pitcher b. Dunton, Nfk widow age 54 Thomas Picher b. Shernbourne unmarried age 47 farm lab Maria Pitcher b. Shernbourne Unmarried age 18 late servant
They were all lodging with the andrews family in shernbourne and no relationship was given between them.
Now thats the 1851 done.
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Hi again Nina,
Here is what I found in Shernbourne 1841
Robert Pitcher 63 Ag Lab Susan Pitcher 55 William " 30 Phoebe " 25 Ann " 23 Lucy " 21 Susan " 19 Robert " 15 Thomas " 14 James " 10 Charles " 8 Henry " 7 Robert " 3 doesn't say but he must be gson
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Winifred Pitcher 41 Thomas Pitcher 37 ag lab James Pitcher 19 Elizabeth pitcher 16 Ann Pitcher 10 Maria Pitcher 8
Still no hubby for her. ****************************
Found another Robert Pitcher age 23 ag lab seems to be living with Hipkin family in Shernbourne. Poss a son of Winifred. Now it has come down to only 2 families
Just in passing I found a Dinah Ransom age 18 living with parents Thomas and Mary. Could be the Dinah that James Pitcher married???
Now if you ever want another look up just ask ok and I will see what I can do.
good luck and all the best Angela.
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Hello Angela
Thank you so much for spending your time doing this for me.
I haven't had time yet to digest all the above as I was busy yesterday tracing the family from 1861 onwards.
Hopefully I'll have time to look at it today.
Thanks again
Nina
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