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1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« on: Monday 24 January 05 11:45 GMT (UK) »

I'm looking for Ellen Deborah Pitcher born c1853/1854 in Shernborne.  She may be known as Deborah.

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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 January 05 15:31 GMT (UK) »

Here they are

Thomas Pitcher Head  Mar  34  Ag lab   b. Shernbourne
Mary A        "      Wife  Mar   28              b.           "
Deborah     "        dau           6               b.           "
Sulim          "        son            3               b.           "
Thomas      "        son           10mts        b.           "

Living Docking Rd, Shernbourne.

Sulim -- I have never heard of this name but the writing is clear and no matter how I tried to change the letters I always came back to this. I wondered if he his name was Solomn and this was the enumerators attempt?Huh

There are a few other pitcher families in shernbourne would you like their details??

Let me know all the best Angela.
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JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 January 05 09:24 GMT (UK) »

Hi Angela

Many thanks for this.

I really should get Deborah's marriage certificate to confirm her father's name was Thomas, although I doubt there are any other Deborah Pitchers of that age born in Sherborne.

Althought her name on  1881,1891 was Ellen D she did use the name Deborah. Also her birth ref appears to be Deborah. Need to see if I can find a baptism to see where the name Ellen came from.

Sulim's name is transcribed as Selim on 1871 census.

Yes please if it is not too much trouble could I have the other Pitcher's. It may laed to a previous generation.

Thanks

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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 January 05 10:57 GMT (UK) »

Hi Angela

Many thanks for this.

I really should get Deborah's marriage certificate to confirm her father's name was Thomas, although I doubt there are any other Deborah Pitchers of that age born in Sherborne.

Althought her name on  1881,1891 was Ellen D she did use the name Deborah. Also her birth ref appears to be Deborah. Need to see if I can find a baptism to see where the name Ellen came from.

Sulim's name is transcribed as Selim on 1871 census.

I've traced this family through the census and I am sure it is the right one as it fits family 'tales'.

Yes please if it is not too much trouble could I have the other Pitcher's. It may lead to a previous generation.

Thanks

Nina
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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 January 05 11:02 GMT (UK) »

hi Nina just going through the census now. Will post them within the hour ok. do you want me to track them back in the 1851 and 1841?? It would be no bother as I need a break from my own research or else I might smash my computer. I am glad to look for some different people.

All the best Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 January 05 11:24 GMT (UK) »

Angela

That would be wonderful  if you could.

I've updated my post above - I'm pretty sure it is the right family as some of the names and places on later census are starting to fit with family tales.

According to freebmd I think Thomas married Mary Ann Andrews in 1852.

Regards

Nina

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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 January 05 11:50 GMT (UK) »

Right here goes then. Here are the families in 1861 all living in Shernbourne

Robert Pitcher  H 36  Ag lab   b. Shernbourne
Mary    Pitcher  W39               b. Measenham
Robert Pitcher  S  10                        "             (See below)
Ruth     Pitcher  D  7                b. Shernbourne
Frederick  "       S   5                          "
Mary         "       D  3                           "
Barnabas  "       s  6mts                     "

Hall farm cottages      Robert was deaf and dumb from birth
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John  Pitcher  h    46   ag Lab  b. Shernbourne
Martha  "        w   40                b. Flitcham
John      "        s    19                b. Ingoldisthorpe
Caroline  "       d   13                b. Shernbourne
Agnes      "      d    10                b. Shernbourne
Matilda     "      d    9                  b. Shernbourne
Charles    "   Brother  29  Ag Lab b. Shernbourne
Margaret   "   "s  Wife  22              b. Flitcham
Charles    "    Granson    2              b. Shernbourne
John         "         "          10mts       b. Shernbourne

The last 2 should be nephews but I think the enumerator got a bit confused
Cottages, Church Lane
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William Pitcher  H 59  Ag lab    b. Snettisham
James Carip??  Bro in law 45   b. Snettisham    Tailor
Anne       "        Sister        49   b. Shernbourne
Susannah  "      Niece          9   b. Shernbourne.

Lots of crossing outs on this one enumerator getting confused again.
Cottages, Church Lane

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Next door to william

James Pitcher   H  31  Ag Lab   b. Shernbourne
Joclyn     "         W 37                b. Sedgeford
Elizabeth M Jones Wifes dau 11  b. Sedgeford

Cottages, Church Lane
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Robert Pitcher  H 44  Ag lab   b. Shernbourne
Jane        "        W44                           "
Philip       "         s 13 Ag lab                 "
John        "         s  10 ag lab                "
Elizabeth "         d  7                             "

Cottages Docking rd,
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James Pitcher  38  Ag lab  b. shernbourne
Dinah  Pitcher  35                           "
Matalia     "      10              b. Dersingham
Harriet     "       8               b.         "
Jarvis       "       6               b.         "
Walter     "        1               b.         "

Cottages  (thats all it gave!)

So now that should keep you busy while I have a look on the other census ok.

Angela.


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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 January 05 12:07 GMT (UK) »

Forgot this one

Kezia Pitcher  18 unmarried Nurse Maid (serv) to John Willimason - farmer - and family Cottages, Docking rd, Shernbourne.

Brace yourself the 1851 are coming............
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 January 05 12:30 GMT (UK) »

Here are the 1851

Robert Pitcher  H   76   Lab   b. Shernbourne
Susan  Pitcher  W  66            b. Snettisham
William Pitcher   S  43  Lab    b. Snettisham
Ann      Pitcher   D  33            b. Shernbourne
Susan  Pitcher   D  29            b. Shernbourne
THOMAS   "        S  24   Lab                   "
James      "         S  21  Lab                   "
Charles    "         S  20  Lab                   "
Henry       "        S  17   Farm boy          "
Robert      " Gson   13   Farm boy          "
Georgianna Pitcher Gdau 4                    B. Docking workhouse. (Poor kid)
Only address is Shernbourne, Docking
Looks like you have found Deborah's grandparents!?

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John Pitcher   Head  35   Lab  b. Snettisham
Martha  "        Wife   30           b. Flitcham
Margaret  "      Dau   12           b. Flitcham
John F.    "        Son   10           b. Ingoldisthorpe
Kezia       "        Dau  7            b. Shernbourne
Caroline   "       Dau  4                       "
Agnes      "       Dau   1                      "
John Massham Lodg  20           b. Bircham,nfk

Living Shernbourne, Docking

Could this be the Margaret that Johns brother Charles married?? Uncle marrying niece is unusal but did happen??

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Jane Pitcher Head Married33  Labourers wife b.Shernbourne
James N "      Son               9                                      "
Philip      "      Son               3                                      "
John       "       son              2                                      "

Living Shernbourne, Docking

I found a married Robert Pitcher age 28 shepherd lodging with Carter family, Kings Head West Bradenham, Swaffham
No other family with him so I think this is Janes hubby.
(He was born in Shernbourne)

There was another Robert age 27 also born in Shernbourne but stated as unmarried he was working as a servant (groom) for Anna Maria Kendall a farmer of 600 acres. Living in Shernbourne


I found a Ann Pitcher 22 b. Shernbourne, unmarried housemaid for John Lambert (shopkeeper)  living Snettisham, Docking

Also found this family

Winifred  Pitcher b. Dunton, Nfk  widow age 54
Thomas   Picher  b. Shernbourne unmarried age 47 farm lab
Maria       Pitcher b. Shernbourne Unmarried age 18 late servant

They were all lodging with the andrews family in shernbourne and no relationship was given between them.

Now thats the 1851 done.



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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 26 January 05 12:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi again Nina,

       Here is what I found in Shernbourne 1841

Robert Pitcher  63  Ag Lab
Susan  Pitcher  55 
William     "       30
Phoebe    "       25
Ann          "       23
Lucy         "       21
Susan       "       19
Robert      "       15
Thomas    "       14
James       "       10
Charles     "        8
Henry        "        7
Robert       "       3  doesn't say but he must be gson

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Winifred Pitcher  41
Thomas  Pitcher  37  ag lab
James     Pitcher  19
Elizabeth pitcher  16
Ann        Pitcher   10
Maria      Pitcher    8

Still no hubby for her.
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Found another Robert Pitcher age 23 ag lab seems to be living with Hipkin family in Shernbourne. Poss a son of Winifred. Now it has come down to only 2 families




Just in passing I found a Dinah Ransom age 18 living with parents Thomas and Mary. Could be the Dinah that James Pitcher married???

Now if you ever want another look up just ask ok and I will see what I can do.

good luck and all the best Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: 1861 Shernborne census lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 27 January 05 09:07 GMT (UK) »

Hello Angela

Thank you so much for spending your time doing this for me.

I haven't had time yet to digest all the above as I was busy yesterday tracing the family from 1861 onwards. 

Hopefully I'll have time to look at it today.

Thanks again

Nina
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