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Galium
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I came across this note on a burial in 1850 in a C of E register. Does anyone know what reasons there might be for such a burial?
The man in question was reported in the newspaper as having died of apoplexy - so not a suicide.
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meles
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He might have been a non-conformist?
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Galium
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Thanks. If he belongs to the family I think he does, he was baptised a Catholic - but the church he was baptised in had a burial ground, and he was still living nearby  .
He doesn't appear to have had a death certificate either.
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meles
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Hmm  the plot thickens...
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Galium
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Thanks JenB. The RC mass and burial without ceremony probably makes sense.
The man lived very near the CoE church, with the RC church a couple of miles away. The newspaper report says he was thought to have been dead for a week when he was found - in July... So it was probably a matter of burying him as hurriedly and easily as possible.
I suppose that might explain the lack of a death registration as well.
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Before 1880 no body could be buried in consecrated ground except with the service of the Church, which the incumbent of the parish or a person authorized by him was bound to perform; but the canons and prayer-book refused the use of the office for excommunicated persons, for some grievous and notorious crime, and no person able to testify of his repentance, unbaptised persons, and persons against whom a verdict of felo de se had been found. But by the Burial Laws Amendment Act 1880, the bodies of persons entitled to be buried in parochial burial grounds, whether churchyards or graveyards, may be buried there, on proper notice being given to the minister, without the performance of the service of the Church of England, and either without any religious service or with a Christian and orderly religious service at the grave, which may be conducted by any person invited to do so by the person in charge of the funeral. The Act also allowed the use of the Church of England Burial service on unconsecrated ground
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I know Galium knows the name of her man - but - how would a death be registered for someone who was unknown?
If you go to any of the GRO Deaths Indexes, at the end of the "Us" you will see lists of death registrations for "Unknowns"
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Dave Francis
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I know Galium knows the name of her man - but - how would a death be registered for someone who was unknown?
If you go to any of the GRO Deaths Indexes, at the end of the "Us" you will see lists of death registrations for "Unknowns"
Stan
Stan - as a matter of interest, if you have a burial record for someone (who is named in the register) would it be logical to expect to find a death registration under the same name? If the death was initially registered as 'Unknown', could it be re-registered properly when the deceased's family came forward? I ask this because the younger brother of one of my ancestors died in 1876 and was buried in the churchyard in Frant, Sussex. And yet there is no record of his death having been registered anywhere, at all!
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSurnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast |
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