Lynn S
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Hi All
This is my first post so hope I get things right. Looking for info on William Middleton & Sarah ? who were living in Buckden 1841--1871. Need to determine their marriage & baptisms of children. Can't find any Buckden details on IGI or on Hugh Wallis site. Possibilities for Sarah's maiden name are GALE, CHILDS or WOMERSLEY as she was born Gt. Stukeley 1799. Their children are William b.1828, Ellenor b.1829, David b.1831, Mary Ann b.1833(my line) Frances b.1837, Sarah b.1839, Elizabeth b.1844 & James b.1847.
William senior was b.1797ish & census says born Buckden, he dies between 1871 & 1881. The family lived at Hunts End.
Any info would be much appreciated.
Thanks Lynn
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Hi Lynn and welcome to Rootschat
A copy of one of the younger childrens birth certs will give her maiden name which may help in finding the correct marriage details
This is from freebmd
Births December qtr 1843 MIDDLETON Elizabeth St Neots volume 14 page 229
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I'm away from home until next Wednesday, but if no-one has found it in the meantime I'll look up the marriage in Hunts Marriage index when I get back, which will save 7 quid
David
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Marriages prior to 1837 did not have marriage certificates so you would not be saving any money.
You would need to search parish records for the marriage as it is not on the IGI/BVRI
If there are several possibilities, without knowing Sarah's maiden name, you will not be able to establish which is the right entry
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Who suggested there were marriage certs pre 1837?
The options to finding Sarah's maiden name are
1) purchasing the birth cert of one of the children, cost 7 quid. There would still be a need to find where the marriage took place.
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2) waiting for a few days until I can check Hunts Marriage Index which has only pre civil registration marriages. If there is only one William Middleton and Sarah c1827/8 and it's in Gt Stukeley or Buckden then that will avoid the need to purchase the birth cert thus saving 7 quid. Of course if you want a belt and braces job then you'll then purchase a birth cert of one of the post 1837 children, but I doubt if this will be necessary.
David
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Lynn S
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Hi Bedfordshire Boy
Thanks for your reply. I know it may be a long shot with the marriage of William & Sarah but I'm grateful for your efforts. I had already purchased a birth cert for what I thought was their daughter Frances (so already wasted £7) when I was first starting out on my search. Was wrong person but have learnt since that you can put more info onto request for certs to check parents details. Rather than purchase another cert, cos my line was born before civil reg, trying to work out which Sarah is the mother. I presume Buckden registers aren't transcribed!!
I also have Sabey in my tree starting with Francis Sabey who marries Charlotte White 15/11/1790 at Bolnhurst. Their daughter Dinah marries James Page 19/11/1813 at Bolnhurst.
Lynn
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Hi Lynn
There's only one William Middleton marriage to a Sarah in Hunts - Sarah Elderkin at Buckden, which fits, but it was in 1820. There is a Sarah Elderkin baptism in Gt Stukeley on the IGI but that was in 1801. It's quite likely they had other children as there are some unexplained Middletons in the 1841 census, but it would need reference to the parish register to sort them out. Unfortunately this hasn't been filmed by the LDS, nor is a transcript available from Hunts FHS, so it's only available at Huntingdon Records Office, who run reasonably priced research service if you can't get to Huntingdon.
As Carole said, the birth cert of one of the post 1837 children would confirm the Elderkin name, but if you're looking for baptism details of all the children it might be more cost effective to search the parish register.
William Middleton age 75 was buried at Buckden on 10 Apr 1872. There's a Sarah Middleton age 86 buried at Buckden on 19 Jan 1882 which might be yours, although I can't see her in 1881 - but it is getting late!.
I have Francis Sabey and Charlotte White in my tree (not direct line) but I can't trace Francis backwards - they were nonconformist (baptist who didn't do infant baptisms) and there's a big black hole around these early Bolnhurst Sabeys which I haven't managed to penetrate! There were Sabeys in Bolnhurst in the 1750's but I have no proof that Francis was from this family.
David
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Hi David
Thanks will send for the birth cert of one of Mary Anne Middletons' siblings to confirm Sarah's maiden name. If it turns out to be Elderkin there is a possible double entry in my tree!!
After having a quick look at IGI for Sarah's birth details it shows John Elderkin & Eliza as parents. Marriage for John Elderkin is possibly to Eliza Clifton who is born 1773 at Godmanchester. I already have a George Clifton b.1771 Godmanchester in my tree married to Jane Vintner.
Looks like I need to have a couple of days at Huntingdon record office. My brother lives at Somersham so will have to arrange a visit.
Will let you know when I get the birth cert where it leads me.
Thanks once again.
Lynn
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Lynn S
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Hi David
Certificate arrived & yes it is Sarah Elderkin. I have found her in 1881 in St. Neots Union Workhouse so the 1882 death will poss be her.
Do you have details of which register the 1820 marriage was in by any chance.
Thanks Lynn
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