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Topic: Lady Ellisha Mathew (Read 5675 times)
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rymer
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To exilewa - Has Josie Wade (fomerly Breen) three siblings, Alice (Ryan), Bridget (Hickey) and Michael Breen? Also, you say your mother lives in Hickstead. Is she related to Shane Breen married to Chloe Bunn. The Bunn family own the Hickstead show jumping grounds and Shane won lots of cups for showjumping. He is also from Tipperary (near Cashel) and was trained by Tommy Wade.
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rymer
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The Mathew family of Thomastown descended from George Mathew of Llandaff and Elisabeth Poyntz of Iron Acton, Glocestershire. Elisabeth Poyntz was the widow of the Duke of Ormond, family seat, Thurles and also an ancestor to Prince Charles and Princess Diana. Her grandaughter (Nano Nagle) founded the Presentation Convent School for Girls and her grandson (Toby Mathew) founded the Irish Temperance Society. Toby and Nano were cousins. The family became extinct around 1836 on the death of Francis (Earl of Llandaff) who died without issue. His brothers, George and Montaque never married. The family name was Mathew (never Mathews) and there was a branch at Annsfield (Cork) also, I believe, extinct. The only survivors left are from the original Welsh branch. Re Beresford, Lord Waterford (the Marcus of Waterford) is Patrick Beresford lives in Portlaw, Waterford. 
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rymer
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Back to exilewa, cos I'm trying to work out who you are. Is your mother Winifred (Winnie) Wade and did you haver a brother Maurice who was a Tory MP or a minister for housing or something way back in the sixties? or were you Maurice?
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exilewa
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Rymer, regarding my mother's family (the Wades), Winnie Wade was my auntie and her son Maurice my first cousin (he was a member of the old Greater London Council many years ago). He has two sons. My grandmother Josie Wade did have the three siblings you mention. My first cousin still lives near Cashel. My mother is the last surviving child of Josie Wade and she married James who was also a resident of Thomastown (in fact he lived on the farm by the Theobald Mathew statue). I am not sure if I am a distantly related to Shane Breen but it seems highly likely.
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rymer
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exilewa, I used visit Thomastown as a child and played in the castle ruins, which was why I was searching Tipperary ancestors in the Cashel, Emly and Knock-of-Ella area. But beyond that is against the rules, so hope you don't mind if I PM you.
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exilewa
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rymer, that would be grand but I am not sure how to arrange this - can confirm that my father was James Walshe and he passed away in 1982.
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rymer
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exilewa, Go to the top of the Roots Chat page and click on message...
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nerys-wales
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There are several links on the net to the Mathew family and the Welsh side of this family still survives today. The Irish branches died out a long time ago and the lands to my knowledge went to the Wade family and some of it was sold to Tommy Stack (showjumping). The family was Roman Catholic and descended from Elisabeth Poyntz of Iron Acton (England), who was also Roman Catholic. This family produced a nun (Nano Nagle) and a priest (Theobald Mathew, who created the Presentation Sisters and the Temperance Movement; the family was well and truly Catholic. Nano was the daughter of Ann Mathew, great granddaughter of Elisabeth Poyntz. Also, the surname was Mathew not Mathews and always has been way back hundreds of years to David Mathew of Llandaff, Glamorgan. I am not sure how Wades inherited the Mathew lands but I saw somewhere on the net it was through marriage, which would cause the Irish Mathew branch to become extinct. I am not connected to this family at all but love researching old Welsh families and hope this info might be of some help.
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bowles
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Hello,
I just chanced upon this forum and I noticed that Lady Ellisha Mathew said that Francis James Mathew, last Earl of Llandaff, had no children. I have a family tree provided by a relative that shows him as having two daughters, one of whom was called Mary. believed that Lady Mary Mathew married Patrick Duggan, the captain of her father's yacht. Patrick Duggan is my great great great grandfather.
I am therefore confused.
Bowles
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