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Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« on: Saturday 19 July 08 01:24 BST (UK) »

I apologize if the following looks familiar to some of you.  I posted this message earlier in the "General" category rather than in the Bedfordshire LookUps:

Looking for the marriage record of a Robert Bailey and Elizabeth (unknown) circa 1778.  First child Joseph is baptised in Bletsoe September 1779.  I have found no record in Bedfordshire or immediate vicinity.  Also, searching for baptism of Robert Bailey, presumably born ca. 1759.  Any leads most appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 July 08 01:51 BST (UK) »

Not sure I can help with marriage but I have found his birth:
1754   Of, Bletsoe, Bedford, England  it confirm that he married Elizabeth too.


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Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 July 08 06:10 BST (UK) »

Unfortunately that birth is a member sumission and the submitter didn't have a clue as to where Robert was from or when he was baptised. He was merely working backwards, probably from the baptism of one of the children, and guessing.


Member submissions with "about" and a year are usually worthless. All member submissions should be taken with a large helping of salt until checked with a parish register

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 July 08 01:21 BST (UK) »

Yes, I agree with David. That 1754 birth referenced in IGI cannot be substantiated by the Bletsoe parish records.  Thus my qaundry continues.

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Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 July 08 13:48 BST (UK) »

There's no marriage on Hunts Marriage Index, which hopefully narrows your search down to Northants. Have you tried a specific lookup request for the Northants Marriage Index on that board?

There's an extracted marriage on the IGI in 1771 at Kingscliffe Northants with Elizabeth Richardson, and despite Kingscliffe baptisms being extracted onto the IGI there are none to Robert & Elizabeth. Whilst Kingscliffe is a bit of a hike from Bletsoe it might be worth looking a bit closer at that marriage

Just in case you don't have it, there's a burial of a Robert Bailey at Bletsoe on 19 Dec 1802, but there are two Elizabeth burials - 19 Jan 1795 and 19 Jan 1810

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 July 08 17:28 BST (UK) »

As always, thank you, David, for your keen insights and suggestions.   I have looked at that Kings Cliffe marriage entry many times.  It almost fits but not quite.  Some family trees posted on the Net say that particular Robert died in 1812, but I must inquire further as to the source of that information.  I am quite sure that Elizabeth Bailey, the wife of Robert,  recorded in the Bletsoe PR is the later burial entry and not the 1795 death.

These people were agricultural labourers.  I am not sure how far afield -- forgive the pun -- they travelled in search of work.  Any idea?

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Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 July 08 22:29 BST (UK) »

hello;  the Jan 19 1795 burial of Eliz Bailey is the daughter of Robert & Eliz Bailey as per the Bletsoe PR

+ there is a burial on 19 Dec 1802 of Robert Bailey, married

... + burial on 19 May 1810 of Eliz Bailey, widow


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Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 July 08 01:25 BST (UK) »

Thanks John for the details  of the three Bailey burials in Bletsoe.  It was what my memory ( a very fragile and dangerous thing ) told me.  For a while I could not find my old notes, but subsequently I located them, thankfully Smiley   .  Your assistance is most appreciated.

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Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 July 08 05:25 BST (UK) »

There's a site with Kingscliffe Bailey PR entries extracted at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maureenbryson/id60.htm
which would appear to rule out the 1771 marriage being the couple in Bletsoe.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 July 08 18:43 BST (UK) »

 Sad I agree that it looks doubtful if the Robert Bailey and Elizabeth Richardson married in 1771 are the couple who appear a few later in Bletsoe, but to be certain (as much as one can be in this business) I would like someone with access to the Kings Cliffe PR to  check  if:    1) any children were born to this union; 2) is there a burial record for Elizabeth between 1771 and 1792; and 3) does the burial record for Robert (1812)  by any chance give his age.
Although a long shot, I want to rule out there being two Roberts, i.e., the Robert who marries Elizabeth Richardson in 1771 is not same person who marries Elizabeth Butterworth in 1792.

Is that going too far, maybe?

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