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DEBBIEWEBBY
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WYRVIL?
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Hi, according to the 1901 census, a relative was born in Wyrvil, Salop.
Has anyone idea what it is supposed to say?
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suzard
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It could read as "Wyevil" and possibly should be "Wyevale"
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pete edwards
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Hi Debbie 
this is all the places here in Shropshire that I can think of offhand that begin with W.
Walcot, Shropshire
Walford, Shropshire
Welshampton
West Felton
Westbury, Shropshire
Weston Lullingfields
Weston Rhyn
Weston-under-Redcastle
Whitcott Keysett
Whittington, Shropshire
Whixall
Wistanstow
Withington, Shropshire
Wollaston, Shropshire
Woofferton
Woolstaston
Woore
Worthen
Wrockwardine
Wrockwardine Wood
Wroxeter
Wykey
Although I dont think its any of these 
Pete
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Edwards, mainly Cound, Frodesely, Acton Burnell. Pitchford. and surrounding villages, Shropshire, / Rowe, Cound, / Littlehales, Berrington, Shropshire / Radford, Dublin, / Maguire, Acton Burnell, / Rudge, Frodesely, /
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avm228
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She's Sarah A. Edwards: RG13/2886/132/5 in 1901
Birthplace per 1891 looks like Salop, Otallon??? RG12/3263/74/10
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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avm228
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Sarah's birthplace is given as Warfield, Shropshire in 1881, so perhaps Wyrvil was a phonetic attempt at Warfield.
1881: RG11/2733/24/16
Edited to add: I think that should be Worfield, Shropshire (Warfield is in Berkshire).
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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DEBBIEWEBBY
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Ok. Being a newbie to this research, now I'm getting confused.
How did you manage to get her birth details from her married name?
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avm228
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I'm just tracing back through the censuses in which she's married!
Presumably this is her marriage ref:
Edward William EDWARDS
Sarah Ann THOMAS
Sep 1872 Bridgnorth 6a 998
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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DEBBIEWEBBY
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No, his first name is William. As for the marriage, I have no idea when or where. I don't think he has a second name.
He was born in Manchester, but doing a search for 1850ish, gives far too many results to pin one down.
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avm228
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No, his first name is William. As for the marriage, I have no idea when or where. I don't think he has a second name.
He was born in Manchester, but doing a search for 1850ish, gives far too many results to pin one down.
He's Edward W. Edwards, aged 31, in 1881, birthplace Walsall, Staffs
Also Edward W. Edwards, aged 41, in 1891, birthplace Walsall, Staffs.
References as given above.
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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DEBBIEWEBBY
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This is all so confusing. I have his sons' marriage certificate here and his name is down as William.
I know people use their middle names but I thought on official documents they are supposed to use the birth name?
Presumably, I am wrong.
You put me to shame.
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avm228
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Certainly not trying to put anyone to shame! Just trying to help.
People did use middle names, and switch between first and middle, much more in the 19th century than we are familiar with these days. In giving information to the Registrar the son might well have given the name his father preferred to use or was accustomed to using. The more research you do, the more you will see this - sometimes we think our ancestors were deliberately trying to confuse us 
The 1871 census confirms the existence of a 16 yr old Sarah Ann THOMAS b Worfield, Shropshire (living in Worfield) - see the marriage ref I gave you above.
1871: RG10/2745/60/17
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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pete edwards
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Posible births
Births Mar 1850
Edwards Edward William Walsall 17 265
Births Mar 1855
Thomas Sarah Ann Bridgnorth 6a 550
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Edwards, mainly Cound, Frodesely, Acton Burnell. Pitchford. and surrounding villages, Shropshire, / Rowe, Cound, / Littlehales, Berrington, Shropshire / Radford, Dublin, / Maguire, Acton Burnell, / Rudge, Frodesely, /
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