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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:47 BST (UK) »

I think you must have better resources than me too.
Because I looked up Edwards without any first names on the 1881 census and hardly got any results.
I've been using freecen and freebmd.
With limited money to spend on the 1901 website too, I get lost and frustrated.
Never mind.
Thank you for your help.
I shall re-trace my steps.
Thanks again.
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:55 BST (UK) »



Debbie  -  many of us on here have subs to the larger sites and so access to all the census - and we're here to help Grin

Post what you know about the family and we'll see if we can sort you out  Cheesy

What do you know about the children - the son whose marriage cert. you have would be a good place to start - tell us about him.....
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 19 July 08 14:15 BST (UK) »

GEORGE EDWARDS (AGE 26) MARRIED NELLIE BARNETT (AGE 22) ON 23RD DECEMBER 1911 AT THE REGISTER OFFICE IN THE DISTRICT OF BIRMINGHAM.
THEY BOTH LIVED AT:
1 BACK 2
INGLEBY STREET
BIRMINGHAM.
GEORGES FATHER IS DOWN AS WILLIAM EDWARDS
NELLIES FATHER IS DOWN AS SAMUEL ISAAC (DECEASED)
THERE IS A NOTE ON THE SIDE SAYING THE FOLLOWING CORRECTIONS WERE MADE....
"COLUMN 3 - CHANGED FROM 23 TO 22"
"COLUMN 7 - FOR SAMUEL ISAAC READ SAMUEL ISAAC BARNETT"
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 19 July 08 14:24 BST (UK) »

So, if I was to ask my partner for a nice birthday present.
Which site would I want him to pay for so I can read all the censuses?
(Considering it's his name I'm tracing!  Wink  )
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 19 July 08 14:32 BST (UK) »

So, if I was to ask my partner for a nice birthday present.
Which site would I want him to pay for so I can read all the censuses?
(Considering it's his name I'm tracing!  Wink  )

Different people have different preferences - as you will see from various threads here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,145.0.html

But if I could have only one subscription, it would be to Ancestry (www.ancestry.co.uk).

In fact I have both Ancestry and Findmypast (www.findmypast.com) - between them they provide a fantastic spectrum of resources. (NB - Findmypast doesn't yet have the 1851 census but does have passenger lists, some parish records and all sorts of other lovely stuff.)

Anna
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 19 July 08 14:45 BST (UK) »



Hi  - I have both Ancestry and Find my Past - for the same reasons as Anna gives - Ancestry is slightly easier to search, I find - but a lot more prone to mistranscription  Grin

Now - on the marriage cert - what does it give as William, the father's, occupation ?

And - do you know where George might have been born ?

I've found a George b. 1885 Aston, Warks, father William.....  need to know dad's occupation   Grin
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday 19 July 08 14:53 BST (UK) »

The 1901 census sys that george was born in Manchester, which ties in with the little bit of info my partner gives me as on the same census is a brother called Eric.
Georges' occupation is iron stamper on the marriage certificate.
His father William (or as I now know Edward William) was a blacksmith. Which is confirmed on the 1901 census.
(Address is 6 Bevington Road, Aston Manor)
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 19 July 08 15:16 BST (UK) »



OH - Manchester   Grin   Got them   Grin

Do you want details of the 1891 and 1881 census?

I think the marriage found already is the right once - there is a neice named Fanny Thomas staying with them in 1881   Cheesy    So the birth regs. Pete found also look good   Grin

Do you want me to see whether I can find Edward William and Sarah Ann with their parents ?
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 19 July 08 15:26 BST (UK) »

Yes please and yes please!  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 19 July 08 15:49 BST (UK) »

Yes please and yes please!  Grin

OK   Grin    Grin   

1891:   RG12.  P.  3263  Fol. 74  Pg. 10

146b Cheetham Hill Rd, Cheetham, Manchester

EDWARDS
Edward W  Head  M  41  Shoeing smith   B.  Staff. Walsall
Sarah A  Wife  M  34                                 B. Salop, Otelan (?already queried) #
Samuel R  Son  15     Apprentice               B.  Staffs Hednesford
Ada L M  dau  10                                       B. Staffs. Longton
George  Son  7                                          B. Manchester
Martha A  Dau  2                                       B. Manchester

Visitors - George and Sarah Booth
Samuel R Edwards  S  30  Gen Labourer

#  Findmypast haven't attempted a transciption, just ? Salop  Cheesy

1881 census :  RG11.  P. 2733  Fol. 24  Pg. 16

133 Wood Street, Stoke on Trent

EDWARDS
Edward W  head  M  31  Blacksmith  B. Walsall
Sarah A  Wife  M  26                          B. Warfield, Salop
Samuel R  Son  4                               B.  Hednesford, Staffs
Martha  Dau  2                                  B. Longton, Staffs
Fanny Thomas  Neice  6                    B. Claverly, Salop

I'll see what I can find from before then....
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 19 July 08 16:01 BST (UK) »

Travelled around a bit then!
You really are a star you know.
I take it you enjoy the research! Smiley
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 19 July 08 16:15 BST (UK) »

I'm concerned in the discrepancy in Georges' age. From the information he seems to be born either 1884 or 1885
From his marriage certificate, being 26 in Dec 1911 would make his birth year 1885.
From the 1901 census, being aged 17 would make his birth year approx 1884 and the same for the 1891 census,
Unless his birthday happened to be the last week of December, considering he married 23rd Dec?
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« Reply #27 on: Saturday 19 July 08 16:19 BST (UK) »

Debbie  -  don't worry about the age difference!  It was quite common for there to  be a 1 or two year swing from census to census - maybe they weren't sure - maybe they forgot - 1 one year swing is nothing - believe me !  Look at his brother - Samuel - 4 in 1881 and 15 in 1891

And yes - I do enjoy and am having a ball here  Cheesy

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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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« Reply #28 on: Saturday 19 July 08 16:39 BST (UK) »

Both accounts make me feel better! Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: Saturday 19 July 08 17:17 BST (UK) »

Found another problem .....
1881 census - Martha  Age 2  Born Longton
1901 census - Martha  Age 12  Born Manchester

Is it possible the first one died and they had another child and named her after the first?
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