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cmcmull
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Hello
Can I please request a lookup for James and Jane Cumming born c 1827-1830 James born Glasgow and Jane born Kirkintilloch. In 1900 they lived in Parliamentary Rd Glasgow.
Thanks, Carmel
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crookedtail
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Hi Carmel,
Here is the 1891 census....
James Cumming age 62 same birth info
Occupation: Railroad Carter
Living in St.Rollex Parish area of Glasgow at 79 Parliay Ro.
Wife: Jean (Jane used now) age 64, Birth Place now says Kirkintellock,Dumbartonshire.
Children:
Lilias age 21
Occupation: Paper Ruler
No others listed.....Crookedtail
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crookedtail
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Hi,
Here the 1901 CENSUS
James Cumming age 72
Occupation: Grace Bery Foreman
Living at: 79 Parliamentary Road Glasgow Martyrs,Lanarkshire
Wife:
Jane S.Cumming age 73 same birth info
Children:
Wife: Lily Craig age 31
Husband: William Craig age 31,Born: Glasgow
Occupation: Tin Smith
Lily and William Craig children
1.Jeannie age 8 born: Glasgow
2.James C Craig age 1 Born: Glasgow
Hope this helps....Crookedtail
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cmcmull
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Thanks for your help with this. I thought there would probably be children other than Lily as they were married for years before she was born so now I have Alexander to research also and I suppose he would have moved out before the 1891 census.
Regards, Carmel
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crookedtail
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Hi,
I will see what I can come up with to help you find him...
Crookedtail
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Hi,
Think this could be a BIG Possible for Alexander....
Alexander Cumming
Age is 24 (but with the way Census rounded age off and the
time of year it was done it could be him)
Born: Springburn,Glasgow
Occupation: Locomotive Engineer
Living at 17 Elmvale Row
Springburn
Wife:
Ann Age 20,Born: Glasgow
Children:
1. Alexander age 5mo. Born: Springburn
Visitor: (must be family somehow)?
Andrew Cumming age 19,Born:Springburn
Occupation: Locomotive Engineer
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Yes this would be him. I found the birth record in 1866 so the age of 11 in 1871 must have been an error.
Thanks again, Carmel
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Hello Clare
My research of Cumming family only starts with James born c 1829 who married Jane Semple. I'm researching the Semple family maternal line of Cuthell so unable to help with anything further on Cumming line. I don't have parents names so James could also be a son of your Alexander since it was usually 3rd son who was named after the father and older sons named after their grandfathers.
Regards Carmel
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Hi Carmel,
Could this be your Jane? ???remember Jane and Jean can be same name.
Jean Semple
Born: April 14,1827
Place: Bonhill, Dumbartonshire,Scotland
Parents: James Semple Father
Janet Steel Mother
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MARRIAGE:
James Cumming ..Husband
Jean Semple..Wife
Date: Dec 30,1859
Place: Old Monkland,Lanarkshire,Scotland
Found: Family Search
Will keep looking for you on other things...what do you need?
Crookedtail
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Hi
The marriage is hers but the birth is not. Her parents were Walter Semple and Margaret Cuthell. I haven't got Jean/Jane in 1851 census as she was not with family in Kirkintilloch and had not married then, so don't know where she was.
Regards, Carmel
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Hi,
I have tried all over everywhere I can think of and can't
find her with those parents...In fact cant find such people
together on census or anything....
My suggestion is to order the marriage and see what that
says and if her parents are died then you can search on SP
for that...I have check out Ireland,England,Scotland on one...
Maybe someone with a new outlook can help but I am lost...
what a brickwall...Crookedtail
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Her mother Margaret died at Kirkintilloch in 1847, Her father died Jun 1861. He is on 1841 - 1861 census Handloom weaver and then Greenwich pensioner at Eastside St Kirkintilloch. In 1841 Mary, Jean, James and Marion were home with parents, 1851 Mary, Margaret and Margaret's eldest child were there plus another child possibly illegitimate daughter of Mary or Margaret, 1861 Margaret with 5 children and youngest daughter Marion were home with father. There is a son John born 1823 who I haven't found in 1851 but he was married at Old Monkland in 1850 and there in 1852 so probably there somewhere in 1851 also. A daughter Ann was in Kirkintilloch 1841 but in another household as servant. I have her later details with family in Glasgow. Youngest son James disappears after 1841 census. He would have been abt 14 when his mother died so may have moved away for work or died young. Most of the later details I've traced because of numerous people mentioned in a will and court case that I have details of. There was no one there who could be descendant of James but there is also no mention of family of Marion and I have found them so missing from the will doesn't necessarily mean he died without family. There are four other children also born to Walter and Margaret who I have nothing on other than birth on IGI and I think they all died young at Kirkintilloch. They are fairly distant relatives so I'm not too worried about those I can't find. My main interest in them came about because of the court case over the will which went on for many years and involved family in 3 continents. If you do find any more leads I'd be very pleased but don't worry too much about those that can't be found.
Regards, Carmel
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