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Topic: Can you read what this Debys town is called... (Read 3797 times)
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Shirles
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Hello Bumblebee and Dobby
You have both been working very hard on my behalf, thankyou ~ I think Elizabeth's baptism in Smalley could be the right place. But I am having difficulty thinking they were married in Bolsover in 1787 but not having children until 1807. Unless there were other children I don't know about
of course. I had been thinking because of her age that it was not her first marriage.
Incidently her 'second' child with John Frost Snr was a daughter 'Mary' in 1811 in Arley, Warwickshire, wouldn't it have been great for her to be named 'Dorothy', that would have clinched it for me ~ but no help there either!!
I'm not too worried about the variation in her age on the census Dobby, as you rightly say it is not unusual to have these discrepancies.
Lots of food for thought, watch this space.
Many thanks for your help especially today.
Best wishes
Shirley
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My research interests are as follows:
TROW, Jane Elizabeth,(nee Evans) died 1864 in Dorrington, Condover
TROW Jane, Kerry, Montgomeryshire abt 1777 GARDINER Edward, Shropshire, abt 1764
TUDOR Martha, Kerry, Montg abt 1762
JONES Richard, Llangedwin, Debighshire 1794
UNKNOWN Anne, Shrewsbury? Shropshire abt 1794
STALEY James, Lydbury North, Shrops abt 1772
CORNS Margaret, Lydbury North, Shrops 1769
MILLS Joseph, Golon, Llanbister, Radnorshire
CORFIELD John, St Chads, Shrews 1773
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dobfarm
RootsChat Aristocrat
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Granny Tidmarsh (Maiden name Mary Fletcher b1874 )
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Hi Shirley, Yes your right to have misgivings and its early days. The age on these post 1837 death certs taken as 'must be right' as gov. My Gt Granny was 20 at marriage 1867 & died aged 60 1902 and signed X thus but was educated at counting in 10's and not in halves 0.5 -50% or dived by 2.=1/2 or 5years round offs My oldest know on my mums side Phoebe Tidmarsh died 1852 age 83 on death cert- on the 41c age 60 on the 51c age 72 burreid at Temple Balsall churchyard on her head stone age 72. As siblings of 1787 Bolsover are in hugh wallis bolsover http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyDerby_(A-M).htm#PageTitleJohn could be problems 1793 could have died as infant & 1807 2nd Johnchild moved on after last entry If she was married before then you've a life time work. but ! think not. Another marriage still out there round 1797-1806 but can't rule out 1787 the normal marrying age . = 1785-1795 of 20 to 30 years old at marriage 5 years diff at death age ~ marriage years out by + 10 years to the norm funny old world I'll confirm Eiz marsh 1771 bapt smalley good hunting Doddy |
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Derbyshire, Warwick. Yorkshire, Stafford and Worcestershire.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth.
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Shirles
RootsChat Senior
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Hi Doddy
BRILLIANT ~ I am just going back to the drawing board on this to see if it all fits.
Not sure about the mistype or mistake Dave can you say again please?
Thank you for all you have done, I'll be back as soon as I can.
Best wishes
Shirley
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My research interests are as follows:
TROW, Jane Elizabeth,(nee Evans) died 1864 in Dorrington, Condover
TROW Jane, Kerry, Montgomeryshire abt 1777 GARDINER Edward, Shropshire, abt 1764
TUDOR Martha, Kerry, Montg abt 1762
JONES Richard, Llangedwin, Debighshire 1794
UNKNOWN Anne, Shrewsbury? Shropshire abt 1794
STALEY James, Lydbury North, Shrops abt 1772
CORNS Margaret, Lydbury North, Shrops 1769
MILLS Joseph, Golon, Llanbister, Radnorshire
CORFIELD John, St Chads, Shrews 1773
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Shirles
RootsChat Senior
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Hi Dave
I think you are spot on: after all I didn't know for sure where John Frost originated from, he had died by the time of the 1841 census. I have not been able to find a marriage or death for him in Birmingham either.
I am wondering why John Frost 1807 and Mary 1811 were born in Arley, Staffordshire. It is many miles away from Birmingham and very rural.
I am trying to speak to my nephew to see what he thinks of your findings but he is not at home.
Many thanks for what you have established Dave, I'm very grateful.
Best regards
Shirley
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My research interests are as follows:
TROW, Jane Elizabeth,(nee Evans) died 1864 in Dorrington, Condover
TROW Jane, Kerry, Montgomeryshire abt 1777 GARDINER Edward, Shropshire, abt 1764
TUDOR Martha, Kerry, Montg abt 1762
JONES Richard, Llangedwin, Debighshire 1794
UNKNOWN Anne, Shrewsbury? Shropshire abt 1794
STALEY James, Lydbury North, Shrops abt 1772
CORNS Margaret, Lydbury North, Shrops 1769
MILLS Joseph, Golon, Llanbister, Radnorshire
CORFIELD John, St Chads, Shrews 1773
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Shirles
RootsChat Senior
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Hi Dobby
I truly appreciate all the help I have had from everyone on rootschat. My pleas for help are too many to mention from Technical help, photography, Montgomeryshire, Shropshire to mention just a few. This is a wonderful site and I am sincerely grateful to everyone who has helped me over the years including those behind the scenes.
Many thanks once again
Shirley
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My research interests are as follows:
TROW, Jane Elizabeth,(nee Evans) died 1864 in Dorrington, Condover
TROW Jane, Kerry, Montgomeryshire abt 1777 GARDINER Edward, Shropshire, abt 1764
TUDOR Martha, Kerry, Montg abt 1762
JONES Richard, Llangedwin, Debighshire 1794
UNKNOWN Anne, Shrewsbury? Shropshire abt 1794
STALEY James, Lydbury North, Shrops abt 1772
CORNS Margaret, Lydbury North, Shrops 1769
MILLS Joseph, Golon, Llanbister, Radnorshire
CORFIELD John, St Chads, Shrews 1773
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~ sure she'll knock off 10-15 years.
