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kascon
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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 11:03 UTC (UK) »
thats a good idea
but i dont think his family know.  thats why i started this in the first place. his granson said they didnt know what had become of the uncle Arthur after he stayed behind.

he asked for my help to find him.


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Shearn, Courtier, Eames, Maynard, Fursse.
Turner, Giles, Bodimead
all London based
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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 11:26 UTC (UK) »
that's what it is allabout - trying to find out what you dont already know!!

Have you got the census references for Arthur and family in 1891 and 1901 before Jesse and co emigrated.
i have just spent ages looking and cant find them. With a large sense of deja-vu as  I did exactly the same when I read your first request some time ago.
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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 11:27 UTC (UK) »
got 1901 (silly me was looking for Alfred not Arthur!)

RG13 1329 91 20

8 Manor Street Berkhampstead
Jesse E 38 Soldier Sergent major of volunteers bn Ivinghoe Bucks
Edith 38 bn Essex Colchester
Arthur C 15 mechanical engineer bn Colchester
Maud J 14 bn ?
Edward W 12 bn Bedford
George F 9 bn E India
John A 6      "
Mabel E  3     "
Walter T 2    "
Dorothy M 1   bn Bedford
Louise Kathleen 1 mth bn Berkhampstead

There are a lot of them! Have you followed all the siblings in Canada to see if Arthur turns up as a witness at a wedding, or in a will, or anywhere else?
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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 11:43 UTC (UK) »
The only one I can find proof of in Canada is George Frederick .
His WW1 papers are online and he states his next of kin as Mrs E T Turner of Nova Scotia.

However I can't see any of the rest of the family in the 1911 census.

Nor can I see any of them leaving the UK on the ships lists.  Roll Eyes

Presume you have records of more of them out there?

I've been looking for them in 1891 too,but seeing that some of the kids were born in India,that's where they must have been then  Roll Eyes

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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 11:50 UTC (UK) »
Edith didnt have a middle initial at her wedding in 1885

Jul/Aug/Sep 1885
Colchester reg distr

Edith Lucking
also on page Jesse Edward Turner
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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 11:53 UTC (UK) »
nor on 1881 census

RG11 686 35 9

18 yr old servant in Camberwell

will try 1871 next...
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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 12:01 UTC (UK) »
1871
RG10 1683 6 5
st Botolphs Street Colchester
George Lucking 35 Carman to 'Pickfords' bn Prittlewell
Hannah 36 bn Southend
arthur George 9 bn Springfield
Edith 8 bn Colchester
Julia 6  "
John 3  "
Emma 1   "

and her birth:
Oct/Nov/Dec 1862
Colchester reg distr
ref 4a 254

Edith Lucking

so she never had a middle initial 'T' before that reference to Frederick's WWI papers - with such a common name as Turner it does make you wonder if that Fred is the same as this Fred..
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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 12:10 UTC (UK) »
Have you seen Jesse's discharge papers  and Army Record?- discharged from army on 5th June 1908

refers to father Charles, wife Edith and eldest of children, brother Arthur
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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 12:47 UTC (UK) »
yes his descendent ahs supplied me with photos, and even his sergeants award when he was made up of Sergeant major Jesse Turner of the Bedfordshire regiment. i even have his discharge record in which he states he intended to emigrate to Canada. and ive been in touch with his brother Charles' descendent who also wetn to Canada. no one knows what happened to Arthur. 
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Re: 2nd request for Arthur Charles Turner please
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 12:50 UTC (UK) »
What a shame the kids names and Dob's are so smudged.
Will look at the Ottawa records now-as it would seem as though that was his intended place of emigration.

Although I fear it may not give us any new clues as to where Arthur went.

Maybe he just stayed in the UK???

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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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