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penninah
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Hi all
Can anyone come up with a likely name that 'DICKS' may have been anglicised from?
The family where from Stargardt in then germany c1829.
Many thanks
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meles
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"Dick" is, I understand, a common German surname (meaning "fat", I'm afraid  )
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Berlin-Bob
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DICKE, DICKES, DICKER, and all sorts of names beginning DICKE/R
(Dickerhof, Dickersohn, etc), DICKOW
Could even be a simplification of DIEK... , DIECK....... DEIK..., DEICK.... etc.
Do you have any other details about them, which might give us a clue ??
Bob
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penninah
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Hi there
Thanks for your replies! I was aware it meant fat! lol
All the info i have about this particular chap is that his name was Louis (sometimes Lewis) Dicks he was born c1828 Stargardt, Germany.
He came to England i know not when but appears to be marrying a Leah Lemon (Lehman?) of Holland in London City 1854. They were Jewish. Louis was a tailor and they resided in the Spitalfields/Stepney/Mile end area of London. They had 10 children. Most of whom i have found records for attending the Jewish free school in Stepney.
Isaac, Lipman, Solomon, Rebecca, Lena, Amelia, Samuel, Elias, Simon and Lionel.
I have them from the 1861 census on.
Regards
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Graham Whitehead
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Is Starrgardt right? Wouldn't Stuttgart be more likely? Sorry if I am showing my ignorance. Best wishes
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Warwicks: Whitehead, Allcock, Atkins, Bayley, Beacham, Bilson, Brooks, Cleaver,Farmer,Gilks, Lucas, Kendall, Oliver, Pickard, Shilton, Underhill.
Lincs: Kendall, Clark, Morley,Vincent, Withers, Barlow,Dawson.
Leics. Vincent
Notts: Bardill, Bugg, Morley, Winfield
Dublin: Brooks, Flood.
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penninah
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Its Stargardt on the census. Apparently now part of Poland. 
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YORKSHIRE; Blackburn (+ Lancs), Goodwin (+Derby), Harrison (+Notts), Leather, Liversidge (+Notts), Rowbotham (+Cheshire), Rowbottom + Thomas.
MX; Bartlett (+Berks), Dabelstein(+Hamburg), Doling (+Hants), Morgan (+Glouc), Pilgrim, Pullen, Spacey, Tedder, Twigg, McCormack(+Roscommon, Ireland), Vincent (+Essex& Kent), Wambach (+Hamburg & Suffolk), Wadley & Wilkins.
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HANTS; Heath
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Berlin-Bob
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.... and before that it was part of .....
well, here there and everywhere:
http://gov.genealogy.net/relations/STARDTJO71JV.png?full-size=1
there is a link to Stargardt here, but only in German
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Stargardt
it also has a map, showing where (in present day Europe)
i.e. in Poland, close to the borders of Germany
Bob
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JustinL
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Hello Peninah,
I do not believe that your ancestor's surname has been anglicized.
Dicks would have been the German rendering of the surname pronounced DIX in Jewish communities further east. The image below is the likely spelling in Yiddish.
Jews were first recorded in the district of Stargard (aka Preussisch-Stargardt) in 1525. According to official statistics, there were 612 Jews in the city in 1843, and 137 in the remaining district.
The Mormons have filmed the original Jewish BMD registers for Stargard covering the period 1812-1849 (film no. 1190966). Equally important is the list of surnames adopted by the Jewish families of West Prussia in 1812 (film nos. 1183655 and 1184441).
Hope this helps,
Justin
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penninah
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Thanks again all for your replies, very useful.
Thanks Justin for that yiddish translation. Is the LDS stuff avaliable to view online or do i need to buy a disc??
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YORKSHIRE; Blackburn (+ Lancs), Goodwin (+Derby), Harrison (+Notts), Leather, Liversidge (+Notts), Rowbotham (+Cheshire), Rowbottom + Thomas.
MX; Bartlett (+Berks), Dabelstein(+Hamburg), Doling (+Hants), Morgan (+Glouc), Pilgrim, Pullen, Spacey, Tedder, Twigg, McCormack(+Roscommon, Ireland), Vincent (+Essex& Kent), Wambach (+Hamburg & Suffolk), Wadley & Wilkins.
NORTHUMBERLAND; English, Huggup & Webster.
HANTS; Heath
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JustinL
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Peninah,
I think you would have to order the films through an LDS Family History Centre.
Justin
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penninah
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Ok, thanks
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YORKSHIRE; Blackburn (+ Lancs), Goodwin (+Derby), Harrison (+Notts), Leather, Liversidge (+Notts), Rowbotham (+Cheshire), Rowbottom + Thomas.
MX; Bartlett (+Berks), Dabelstein(+Hamburg), Doling (+Hants), Morgan (+Glouc), Pilgrim, Pullen, Spacey, Tedder, Twigg, McCormack(+Roscommon, Ireland), Vincent (+Essex& Kent), Wambach (+Hamburg & Suffolk), Wadley & Wilkins.
NORTHUMBERLAND; English, Huggup & Webster.
HANTS; Heath
Any census info is crown copywright
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JustinL
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Penninah,
Just to follow up on my PM, I came across this picture while googling.
It is a gravestone in the Jewish cemetery at Starogard Gdanski (Preussisch Stargardt).
Was she Louis' sister?
Justin
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JustinL
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Hello again,
No that I know that the "s" was only added to DICK in the early 1860s, it was fairly straight forward to find:
Isaac DECK [sic], Q1 1856 Whitechapel (1c, p. 336)
Leon DICK, Q4 1857 Whitechapel (1c, p. 333)
Justin
BTW, did you know about Albert, b. 12 May 1863? He also went to the Jewish School.
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DICKS_in_Yiddish.pdf