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Topic: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO (Read 297 times)
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alveleyhistorian
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Hi there,
This is a bit of long shot, but can some kind soul possibly help with a look-up from the 1841 or 1851 census for Warwick Square in Pimilico ?
I am looking for a family named MASON ( could be MONCK MASON ?) known to be living in Warwick Square in 1841
- possibly a James Mason with a wife Ann ?
Daughter Anna Maria Alicia Monck Mason born Summer 1841.
Any help much appreciated 
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Valda
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Anna gives a different age from the one she gives on the 1881 census on the 1861 census shortly after her marriage.
1861 census RG9 1129 folio 30
Ballingdon Street Ballingdon With Brundon Suffolk
Robert K Longden 40 Head Married Rector of Brent Ely Suffolk Gloucestershire
Anna M A Longden 23 Wife Married Pimlico Middlesex
Her death registration is consistent with an earlier birth
Deaths Mar 1898
Longden Anna Maria A 60 Epping 4a 215
Do you have the details of her father from her marriage?
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Valda
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jennifer c
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There is a James & Ann Mason in Marylebone in 1841 at 26 Brown Street 679/5/18
James 40 Labourer
Ann 35 Milliner Both born in the county.
Can only find a Warwick Place 678/11/6-7
Jennifer
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ANNA MARIA MASON's birth was registered within the MARYLEBONE R.D in the Sep qtr of 1841...do you have the birth cert?
Pimlico isn't, as far as i'm aware, within the Marylebone R.D!
Their is a Warwick Square in 1841.......as seen in the 1841 London P.O directory...go to street index, take page number and then add on 30+ pages (image 301)
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/findbylocation.asp
Warwick Square was in the Christchurch Parish and if you input the name Alexander Martin (taken from the 1841 directory as he is seen living there) in 1841 Middlesex and Christchurch as a Parish you will find him or should I say Warwick Square and then you can page up and down if you wish
1861
Robert Longden is 40 born Gloucestershire......1871 he is 53 born Paddington!
Isabella Mallard the 44 year old cook in 1861 went with them to Suffolk.....Isabella was a Shoreditch gal and also hasn't a clue how old she is........seen living with her mum & siblings in Shoreditch 1841
When you look at the view images section of freebmd it quite clearly states ANNA MARIA ALICIA MONCK MASON so one can only assume that Monck is supposed to be MONK and someone assumed that was the way to spell it!
Anna is pretty adamant she was born circa 1838 so perhaps the birth of ANNA MARIA MASON in 1841 Marylebone R.D is not her!
GEORGE MASON married SOPHIA MONK on the 26th March 1826 at St Leonards Shoreditch (the servant came from Shoreditch!) is this Anna's parents?
1861
4 BRIDPORT STREET, MARYLEBONE, MIDDLESEX
SOPHIA MASON HEAD 54 (WID) MARYLEBONE, MIDDLESEX
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Sorry........I don't have access to the 1851
1841
WARREN STREET, ST PANCRAS, MARYLEBONE, MIDDLESEX
SOPHIA MASON 30 IND YES
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Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?) Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area). Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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jennifer c
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Hi, I was looking in Marylebone!!!
It comes under The City of London ref 720/9/28-30.
Still not there .
Jennifer
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CatOne
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The Monck/Monk Mason family seem to come from Ireland and there are a few of them scattered about the different censuses, seems to be quite a wealthy family, is it the same one do you think? 
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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire Shaw, Marland - Lancashire Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland Richards - Neath Swansea Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Although, after googling, it seems they are "descended from Sir John Mason of Sion, Middlesex". Looks an interesting family if she is a Monck Mason
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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire Shaw, Marland - Lancashire Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland Richards - Neath Swansea Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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jennifer c
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Hi, Could she be related to the family she is visiting on the 1881 census. He seems quite wealthy and he was a Magistrate?
Walter J.W.Poley
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According to IGI, Walter Poley married a Catherine Halifax, wonder if they're related or just friends.
Is her husband Robert K, Robert Knight Longden, son of Thomas Hayter Longden? (hes on thepeerage.com if its the same person)
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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire Shaw, Marland - Lancashire Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland Richards - Neath Swansea Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Valda
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Caroline Georgina Monck Mason is easier to follow through the censuses than her sister.
Marriages Dec 1873
Malan Charles Hamilton Eastry 2a 1551
MASON Caroline Georgiana M Eastry 2a 1551
1881 census RG11 1194 folio 136
Gervis Rd E. Lindisfarne Christchurch Hampshire
Charles H. Malan 43 Head Married Retired major of infantry Brighton Sussex
Caroline Malan 44 Wife Married Wife of retired major London
plus 5 servants
a widow in Kensington on the 1891 census
1871 census RG10 306 folio 66
129 Mildmay Street Islington
Caroline Mason 34 Head Unmarried Lady Independent Pimlico, Middlesex
1861 census RG9 604 folio 36
48 York Road Hove Sussex
Charles L Sauvage 85 Visitor Married French Professor Boulonge France
Cecilia M M Mason 9 Daughter East Indies
Alice F M Mason 8 Daughter East Indies
Mary G M Mason 4 Daughter East Indies
Caroline G M Mason 24 Unmarried Cousin London Middlesex
plus 1 governess, 2 visitors and 4 further servants.
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Valda
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alveleyhistorian
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Hi Valda,
This is fascinating. Many thanks !
Does it possibly give the full household for 48 York Road Hove for 1861 ??
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The others present on census night in the household in Hove in 1861 were
Edward A Mildmay 8 Visitor East Indies
Lucy M C Monday 31 Governess unmarried Woodside Hants
Ann O'Keef 70 Visitor Widow Nurse Dangarvon? Ireland
Sarah Chiles 37 Servant Mendlesham Suffolk
Clara Chiles 16 Servant Mendlesham Suffolk
Susannah Chiles 23 Servant Mendlesham Suffolk
Gertrude Freeman 12 Servant Nursemaid Mendlesham Suffolk
Ellen M. Warner 15 Visitor East Indies
Regards
Valda
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