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1861/71 Look Up Please
« on: Tuesday 22 July 08 20:16 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I am trying to trace William Gibson, Wheelwright,  born abt 1805 Hull. He married Margaret Petfield in 1828 in South Cave.

He is living with her and children in 1851 at 36 West Street, South Cave.

But on 1881 he is married to a Hannah who was born abt 1825 in South Cave.

I have found a marriage for him and a Hannah Stephenson in September 1868 in South Cave, IGI, and also showing on GRO Registers as in Beverley, ref 9d 164.

There is also a death for Margaret Gibson in June 1862 in Beverley records, 9d 68.

I can't find Hannah Stephenson on IGI so am wondering, as she was about 45 years old, if she was a Widow. 

Any help with census and any previous marriage for Hannah would be appreciated.

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Calmar
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Re: 1861/71 Look Up Please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 July 08 21:42 BST (UK) »

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HANNAH STEPHENSON  Christening:  01 FEB 1824   South Cave, Yorkshire  Father:  WILLIAM WALKER   Mother:  ANN STEPHENSON

1861 for Market Place South Cave

Hannah Stephenson 34 unmarried b South Cave occ dressmaker
Ann Wilkinson 17 b South Cave - visitor
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Re: 1861/71 Look Up Please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 July 08 21:52 BST (UK) »

Thank you Carole, why couldn't I find birth!! Grin

So she was an unmarried lady when they married in 1868. Great news.

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Calmar
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 July 08 22:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Calmar,

1871  RG10 /4767  Folio 5  Page 3     

Church Street Mill Hill Cottage, South Cave, Yorkshire
GIBSON
William  head m 66 Carpenter employing 2 hands  Hull
Hannah    wife m 47                    South Cave
Joseph    son   s  25  Carpenter       "
Harriet  dau   s  20      "   daughter   "
GAILEY, Thomas    app s  15 Carpenters App    n/k
DUNCAN, Ann serv  13 Domestic Servant   South Cave

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 July 08 22:03 BST (UK) »

Hi

In 1851 she was a visitor to the Dickinson family (he was a farmer)

1841 - a number of Hannah Stephenson's in the right age range but mainly working as servants
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 July 08 22:21 BST (UK) »

Many thanks for that info Carole and Barbara.

I have been trying to find her parents on IGI but can only find an Ann Stephenson in an Alms House in 1881 in Hull area. Sad

Looks like her parents didn't marry as no marriage showing for then on IGI. Famous last words!

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 09:16 BST (UK) »

If you are interested:

South Cave MI's
In memory of/MARGARET/ the wife of WILLIAM GIBSON/ of this place who died June 13th 1862/ aged 56 years / Also Samuel son of the above/who died in infancy/ Also ELIZABETH daughter of the above/who died August 6th 1858 aged 12 years/ Her end was peace/ Set your affections on things above/ and not on things on earth.

PR 1862 Jun 15 Margaret Gibson, South Cave  56
    1858 Aug 9      -         Gibson, South Cave  12

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 10:32 BST (UK) »

Hi Gill,

That is a lovely inscription, I will be very happy to put it in my tree.

Where can I find that site please?

Kind regards.

Margaret
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 12:34 BST (UK) »

Hi Margaret,

I have the South Cave/Broomfleet MI book which is where I found it.

Also I found on the 1841 Census at Cliff Dales, South Cliffe (North Cave Parish) was a Hannah Stephenson (HO107; Piece 1217; Book: 6) aged 15 who was a F.S. but transcribed as Hannah Stephanie.  South Cliffe isn't far from South Cave so this may be her.

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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 15:46 BST (UK) »

Thanks Gill,

May be they moved away after she was born.

I have found on 1881 census an Ann Stephenson, Unmarried, living at 17 Mariners Ct, Sculcoates. Pensioner in Alms Houses. Could this be her mother? How far is Sculcoates from South Cave I wonder?

I can't see anything for Wm Walker for a marriage in South Cave area on IGI but there are hundreds of them!!

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Margaret
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Re: 1861/71 Look Up Please
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 16:51 BST (UK) »

Hi Margaret,

Sculcoates is about 10 miles away from South Cave.

Anybody's guess whether it is her & she may even have married, not necessarily at South Cave.

I did see a William Walker on the 1841 Census at Drewton (on the outskirts of South Cave), who was a groom aged 37. No idea if he was married but no wife with him. There again, maybe no connection at all.

Good luck

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 18:17 BST (UK) »

Thanks again Gill for your help on this.

Two pieces of info to keep for future reference.

Regards,

Calmar
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