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Holmes Peterborough
« on: Thursday 24 July 08 12:12 BST (UK) »

Hi,
I've found the following submitted entries on IGI and am hoping someone can check whether they are correct.

Hedley Holmes marr Mary Bailey 25 Dec 1733 St John the Baptist.
William Holmes marr Mary Munton 2 Apr 1759  St John the Baptist
William Holmes marr Mary Freer 4 May 1756. Cathedral.

Also any details of any children of the above couples. Thanks.

Tempsford.
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 July 08 15:15 BST (UK) »

I had a quick look at the parish records when I was at the library,

Hedley Holmes married Mary Bailey 25th Dec 1733 at St John's the Baptist.

I couldn't find entries for the other 2 but as I said it was a quick look.

I am hoping to spend a day there soon fingers crossed, if and when I go I will have a thorough look, I will also have a look for children.
Are the Holmes family you are looking for related in any way to Rushden or Desborough Northamptonshire?
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 July 08 16:15 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Thank you for the information. Its great to verify Hedley Holmes marriage.
My research into the Holmes family so far seems to lead to Ely/Stretham. My 5x gt grandfather was called Headley Holmes although he was born in Woburn but I think his father William was Hedleys son and the only Hedley I can find was baptised in 1709 in Stretham the son of Richard Holmes and Margaret Headley, which explains the unusual christian name! I think this is the Hedley married in Peterborough.
Its kind of you to look for further info, I appreciate it. Thanks.

Tempsford.
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 September 08 23:01 BST (UK) »

I'm researching the Haynes family. Samuel Haynes, a tailor, married an Elizabeth Holmes in London Piccadilly 12 July 1797. They lived in Ely and had 12 children there, one of whom was Keziah (b. 1816).

I've just found an 1851 census record for Keziah (in Alms House no. 9 in Ely) which shows she was living there with her mother Elizabeth, who is recorded as being a (former) schoolmistress.

It gives Elizabeth's age as 81 (i.e. born c. 1770) and, although poorly written in the census record, it seems to give her place of birth as 'Northants Peterborough'.

Google found your post to this list, recording a Holmes family in Peterborough and suggesting a link to Ely.

Is my G5 grandmother Elizabeth (Holmes) Haynes that link?
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 September 08 23:29 BST (UK) »

Just to add to the strength of the Holmes connection (to Peterborough?):

Samuel and Elizabeth Haynes (nee. Holmes) named two of their children:

Josiah Holmes Haynes (b. 1798)
and
William Holmes Haynes (b. 1809)

suggesting a strong bond with / debt to the Holmes family.

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tempsford
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 September 08 11:27 BST (UK) »

Hi,
I'm afraid I don't really know about the Peterborough Holmes yet.
My 5x gt grandfather Headley Holmes was born in Woburn to William and Mary. William wasn't born in Woburn but its possible he came from Peterborough but I just don't know at the moment.
I can't find Headley's marriage to Ann, although my 4x gt grandmother Maria was born in Kingston upon Thames but after that the family settled in Ely.

Tempsford.
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 May 09 18:25 BST (UK) »

I managed to visit the archives office at the Peterborough Library, I will be going back next week so if there is anything else you wanted me to look up please let me know.

Marriages I have found so far; ( from a printed log not fiche film,so the fathers name isn't on the entry) All at St John's the Baptist church Peterborough.
As I said before Hedley married Mary Bailey 25th dec 1733.

William Holmes and Mary Munton 2nd april 1759, curator was John Hepworth, witness was William White.
Ashley Holmes married Mary Deacons 17th march 1795.
John Banister married Mary Holmes 12 march 1755.
William Holmes married Elizabeth Hunt 26th Sept 1764.
John Cooper married Mary Holmes 23 sept 1771, David Holmes present.
William Holmes married Ann Thompson 13 october 1771.
David Holmes (widower) married Ann Skinner (widow) 20th october 1771.
Benjamin Neall married Sarah Holmes 13 nov 1775.

I do have 3 more volumes to look through plus the baptism and death volumes.

As for William Holmes and Mary Freer,
I will have to visit the Dean's Chapter House to see the records for the Cathedral.

Andrea.
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 May 09 21:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Andrea,
Many thanks for the information. The marriage between William Holmes and Mary Munton looks very promising.
The same for Hedley.
I managed to find a certificate of settlement for a William from Peterborough to Woburn then To Ely so your info is very helpful.
I would be interested if William and Mary had any children in Peterborough before they moved to Woburn. Their first child there was baptised in 1764.

Tempsford.
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 May 09 11:33 BST (UK) »

You are welcome,

I am hopefully going back on Thursday. Are there any other births you wanted me to look for?

Andrea.
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 May 09 12:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Andrea,
Yes, if you could look for any children of Hedley and Mary, that would be great.
Thanks again.

Tempsford. Smiley
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 21 May 09 14:40 BST (UK) »

Been to the library and from the parish record books I have gone from 03/09/1810 - 17th nov 1725. I have found nearly 100 Holmes births and a few more marriages. (I will pm all the findings to you). If you want me to look further back next time I go I can.

But here are the Hedley and William's childrens baptisms and in some cases burial. (as there were 2 William and Mary's obviously giving birth around the same time I am unsure which child has which William and Mary as parents).

30th sept 1734 Elizabeth daug of Hetley and Mary (I assumed this was Hedley)
22 feb 1741/42 Elizabeth daug of Heatley and Mary.
1oct 1736 John son of Hetley and Mary.
22nd aug 1738 William son of Hedley and Mary.
26th dec 1739 Mary daug of Hedley and Mary.

Found a burial date for Hetley Holmes 30th July 1744. There was no husband of or father of next to his name. But after this date there are no other entries for baptisms for children of Hedley and Mary.

Children baptized with William and Mary as parents.

8th oct 1758 John Holmes,
6th jan 1760 Antony Ashley Holmes,
16 march 1760 Alice Holmes.
21 jan 1761 William Holmes,
10 oct 1762 William Homes,
20 sept 1764 Mary Holmes,
1 dec 1765 Rose Holmes,
30th aug 1767 William Holmes,
14th may 1769 William,
14 aug 1774 Ann,
2 july 1774 Elizabeth,
14 feb 1777 David,
26 april 1778 David,
17 jan 1779 Ann.

Other marriages found;
William Holmes and Ann Ashly 17 nov 1725 (could be grandmother to Anthony Ashley Holmes born 1760).

Solomon Holmes and Elizabeth Sutton, 25 jan 1743/4
John Holmes and Susannah Wakefield 5th jan 1750,
Thomas Holmes and Mary Wing 7th june 1750,
Rose Holmes and Samuel Sutton 12 aug 1752,
David Holmes and Mary Stanton 23 aug 1753.

I have found baptisms for childre of all of these Holmes parents. (except Rose).

I can do the deaths as well if you wanted them next time I go. The PM may take a while to compose. Hope this helps,

Andrea.
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 21 May 09 15:50 BST (UK) »

Hi Andrea,
Thats brilliant, thank you very much for taking the time and trouble to look up the Holmes for me. I really appreciate it and it looks very promising and interesting.

Tempsford. Smiley
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 21 May 09 16:51 BST (UK) »

Not sure how much you need;

1 sept 1727 bap John s of William and Ann (Ashley)
4 sept 1727 bur John s of William and Ann.
17 April 1728 bur Rose Holmes widow.
29 april 1729 bap William and Ann.
4 sept 1730 bur Elizabeth d James.
27 sept Elizabeth d of Thomas and Alice.
30 may 1731 bap John s of William and Ann.
19 may 1733 bur John s of William and Ann.
1 aug 1731 bap David s of Thomas and Alice.
20th July 1733 burial James Holmes (no other info).
28 oct 1733 bap James s of William and Ann.
06 nov 1733 bur James s of William and Ann.
5 may 1734 bap Rose d of Thomas and Alice.
16 oct 1736 Ann d of William and Ann.
18 mar 1737/8 bur Ann d of William and Ann.
21 nov 1736 bap John s of  William and Ann.
29 april 1737 bur John s of William and Ann.
14th oct 1737 Catherine wife of Robert.
4 oct 1738 bap William s of Thomas and Alice.
8 jan 1738/9 bapt Ann d of William and Ann.
16 feb 1738/9 bur Ann d of William and Ann.
15 jan 1740/1 bur Mary d of William and Ann (didn't find a bapt for Mary).
10 may 1741 bap Alice d of Thomas and Alice.
25 feb 1742 bur Alice d of Thomas and Alice.
24th june 1743 burial of Elliner Holmes.(no other info).
1 jan 1743/4 burial James Holmes.(no other info).
3 nov 1745 bap Thomas s of Solomon and Elizabeth.
15 jan 1746 bur Thomas s of Solomon and Elizabeth.
8th feb 1747 burial of Robert Holmes (no other info).
26 july 1747 bap Solomon s of Solomon and Elizabeth.
11 april 1750 bur Solomon s of Solomon and Elizabeth.
6 sept 1749 Burial of William Holmes (no other info).
2 oct 1749 bapt William s of Solomon and Elizabeth.
26 oct 1750 bap Thomas s of John and Susannah.
26 dec 1750 bapt David s of Thomas and Mary.
12 jan 1752 bap Elizabeth d of Solomon and Elizabeth.
20 feb 1753 bur Thomas s of Thomas and Mary.
3 june 1753 bap Susanna d of John and Susannah.
21 april 1754 bap John s of Solomon and Elizabeth.
28 april 1754 bap Mary d of David and Mary.
6 jan 1755 bap Thomas s of Thomas and Mary.
30 march 1755 bap Richard s of John and Susannah.
10 oct 1755 bap Rose d of David and Mary.
29 feb 1756 bap Ann d of Solomon and Elizabeth. 1756 must have been a leap year.
16 feb 1757 bap Ann d of William and Ann.

22 feb 1757 bap Ann d of David and Mary.
26 march 1757 bap Solomon s of Solomon and Elizabeth.
30 sept 1759 bap Elizabeth d of David and Mary.
6 april 1760 bap Thomas s of Thomas and Mary.
6 july 1760 bap Mary d of Solomon and Elizabeth.
19 july 1761 bap  Thomas s of David and Mary.
2 oct 1761 bap Ann d of Thomas and Rebecca.
11 april 1762 bap Thomas s of Solomon and Elizabeth.
22 aug 1762 bap Richard s of Thomas and Mary.
3 july 1763 bap Elizabeth d of David and Elizabeth.
5 feb 1764 bap William s of Thomas and Mary
8 feb 1765 bap John s of Thomas and Rebecca
10 nov 1765 bap William s of David and Mary
21 sept 1766 bap Elizabeth d of William and Elizabeth
8 oct 1766 bap Ann d of Thomas and Rebecca.
12 oct 1766 bap Thomas s of Solomon and Elizabeth.
2 oct 1768 bap Alice d of David and Mary.
2 july 1769 bap Thomas s of Thomas and Sarah.
14oct 1770 bap Sarah d of Thomas and Sarah.
16 oct 1770 bap Alice d of David and Mary.
22 nov 1772 bap Mary d of Thomas and Sarah.
19 sept 1773 bap Charles s of William and Ann.
6 nov 1774 bap Thomas s of Thomas and Sarah.
6 aug 1775 bap Ann d of William and Ann.
24 aug 1777 bap James s of Thomas and Sarah.
16 april 1779 bap James s of William and Ann.
11 feb 1781 bap Ann d of Richard and Eleanor
20 nov 1785 bap Ann d of Anthony Ashley Holmes and Elizabeth
14 april 1788 bap Mary d of Ashley and Elizabeth.
7oct 1792 bap Elizabeth d of Anthony and Elizabeth
15 july 1804 bap Elizabeth d of James and Elizabeth.
22 april 1810 bap Henry s of Ashley and Ann.
3 sept 1810 bapt William (age 3 weeks) s of Thomas and Susanna

Let me know if you want any thing else. I won't be going back for a couple of weeks though. Looking for another surname whilst looking for mine is no trouble, plus I only live 5 mins from the library. I will try and see if I can find a bapt for Hedley.


Have fun going through the info.
Andrea.
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Re: Holmes Peterborough
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 21 May 09 16:52 BST (UK) »

oops wrong bit will send you a pm.
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