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Topic: Thomas Bonser & Millicent Bonser( Plumb) Ilkeston, Derbyshire (Read 3818 times)
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Arnie991
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Looking for information on these relatives Thomas b 1817 Ilkeston, Derbyshire Millicent b 1821 Lambley, Nottinghamshire. children Mary 1848, Hannah 1850, Ann 1852, Jane 1851, Thomas 1855, John 1857 all born Ilkeston Derbyshire except Mary born in Codgor Park. Hannah married Herbert Bradley in 1871 in Ilkeston, Derbyshire they had three children Ada, Clara Jane, and George Herbert. Ada married Joseph Henry Knight in 1897 in ilkeston. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Bradley
Bonser
Knight
Plumb
Frost
Wilkes
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suzard
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Hello and wecome to RootsChat
What kind of information are you seeking?
Which census do you have this family on?
Census, BMD?
Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Arnie991
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Thanks for the reply I am new at this.
I have traced them in the 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 census. I am looking for help in the 1851 and 1841 census. the names have been changed in Ancestory.com on the 1861 census, it was Thomas Boncall. I would like to find people that have these relatives in there family trees so I can expand on my tree also to find some living relatives.
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sunflower
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Hi
1841 census
Reed Pond House
Lambley
Nottingham
HO107/866/19
William Hogkinson 65 Farmer - plus family
Millicent Plumb 15 - Female servant
I will have a look for Thomas in 1841
Carol
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd. Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones Warwickshire - Russon Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw. Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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sunflower
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Hi again
In 1841 Thomas Bonser is living in Ilkeston aged 20, occupation Boatman and in the household of Jno Bradley & family also a Boatman.
HO107/189/1
Ilkeston
Carol
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd. Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones Warwickshire - Russon Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw. Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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sunflower
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me again
I don't know if you already have this information.
Millicent Plumb baptised 13.04.1823 to Saml & Mary Plumb, Stockr, at Lambley
Carol
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd. Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones Warwickshire - Russon Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw. Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Arnie991
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Thankyou very much. I don't have this I will be checking this out
Greg
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willow154
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Hi Greg,
It looks as if Thomas Bonser jnr born 1855 is mistranscribed on the 1901 census as Thomas Herbert Bruser - living at 193 Nottingham Road, Ilkeston.
Paulene 
P.S. If you look at the BT phone books on ancestry there were definitely Bonser's still living, and may still be, in Ilkeston fairly recently.
ADDED: I thought the name Bonser was familiar - my grandfather divorced and remarried, and the new wife's sister was married to a Frank Bonser from Ilkeston.
They did have a son, called Frank, who joined the Sherwood Foresters (my father's regiment - they were friends) Frank was posted to Thailand in WW2. He sadly died of dysentry, and he is rememberd on the memorial at Trowell Church. They lived at 2, The Forge, Trowell.
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Arnie991
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Thank you very much for helping me, I have another question. Thomas Herbert Bonser in 1901 living at 193 Nottingham Rd Ilkeston I have traced him back in the 1891 census also how would you go forward trying to find his relatives I know the 1911 census is not out in England yet but how would you go about looking forward?
Again thank you
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sunflower
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Hi Greg
Possible marriage for Samuel Plumb
Samuel Plumb & Mary Green 04.07.1814 at Lambley
Also a few other children baptised to them at Lambley
Pamela Plumb 01.01.1815 - father FWK
Sarah Plumb 30.11.1817 - FWK
Samuel Plumb 09.01.1820 - FWk
Sally Plumb 25.02.1827 - Stockr
James Plumb 14.02.1830 - Stockr
Carol
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd. Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones Warwickshire - Russon Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw. Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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willow154
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Hi Greg,
First to help you get to know the area, and how it changed, here are three maps, 1860s, 1880s and early 1900s - you can then compare them with a new one off the net.
I've just checked on rootschat and I think/hope it's ok to put a section on for you.
Will answer you question re checking forwards in the next post.
Paulene
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willow154
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Number three:
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willow154
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Greg, It is possible to pay a fee to view information from the 1911 england census provided you can supply a specific address:
A successful challenge under the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act has resulted in that from January 2007 The National Archives (TNA) has been providing an address search service on the 1911 census. Researchers are now able to pay for searches in the census from the TNA paid research service at a cost of £45 per address search. Personally sensitive information (eg Infirmity column) will be redacted (i.e. blacked out) from the census information given to the recipient. Please note that until the census is fully digitised searches can only be made using addresses and not surnames, and applications for searches must be made using the special online census search request forms available on TNA's web site. Full details on this plus the application form are available from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/1911census/?homepage=news
However, I think there might be a better way forward for you. I believe that the Ilkeston library has an index with suranmes (including all sorts of information like newspaper obituaries, articles, etc) AND I seem to remember that the names extracted from the 1914 Rates Book for Ilkeston are in this index - so you should be able to find an address for the Bonsers, Knights and Bradleys living in Nottingham this way.
http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/leisure/local_studies/local_studies_libraries/local_libraries/ilkeston/
Market Street
Ilkeston
Derbyshire
DE7 5RN
Tel: 0115 9301104
Fax: 0115 9441226
email: ilkeston.library@derbyshire.gov.uk
Rootschat has a policy not to give out information on living relatives, for obvious reasons, but there are several threads which give useful information about tracking them down. Here is one:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,261434.0.html
Had a look this morning (+ rang a relative living in Ilkeston) but, it's difficult to help you trace forward as there are so many Bonser children born in the area after 1900, and it's a problem to know which are your family's ones, without access to certificates. However, please feel free to ask us all for help with tracking back, or for knowledge of the area.
There are some lovely photos on the following site:
http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/
Paulene
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Arnie991
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Thank you Carol
What does FWK and Stockr mean and how did you find Samuel and Mary's Marriage
I was on the IGI and found all bu Sally and James where did you find them?
Thank you
Paulene
Thank you for the maps and info I will be looking into it, also what is the section you are trying to put on for me Like I said earlier I am very new to this.
Greg
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willow154
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Hi Greg,
Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you - had a problem with the computer and had to shut it down - hopefully it will behave itself now.
The sections are meant to show the same area of Nottingham Road down to the Gallows Inn and Erewash Canal. After that point it changes to Nottinghamshire and becomes Trowell village.
If you go on to google maps uk and type in 'roberts street ilkeston derbyshire' you should get a similar view of what the area looks like today.
To view the maps on the post click on the writing under the left corner of each map and you should be able to open up the attachments and enlarge them. (hope this makes sense). I couldn't post bigger maps because of the restrictions on file size and copyright issues. Hope they are still OK for you.
They are maps of the area in 1866, 1880s and early 1900s and show how the area changed from very little housing to a developed area, with its own community. Your ancestors would have all lived in this part of Ilkeston.
When you look on google maps you will see that this area of Ilkeston is a fair distance from the main part of Ilkeston, where St.Mary's church and the market place is, at the top of Bath Street (the main high street running through Ilkeston).
Anyway, will leave you to have a look, and catch up with you tomorrow.
Paulene
P.S. Hope Carol won't mind me telling uou - FWK is framework-knitter (stockener).
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