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is anyone going to Lewes RO before Sept?
« on: Tuesday 05 August 08 10:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Guys,

I really need a big favour, I, with the help of Lesanne and Kerryb, have explored many avenues on this and we are all agreed that the only resolution would be to go to Lewes and look at the PR's however i am unable to go before at the very earliest the second week of September and i wondered if anyone was going prior to that who could do a look up, i know the Parish although not for certain the church.

James Punnett bp. 09.01.1714 Hooe St Oswalds
married firstly to Ann Cooper son of H Cooper on 11 Sept 1738 Heathfield
they had 5  children
for info   

Bapt   25 Jan 1739 James the son of James Punnet by Ann his wife m. Mary Hicks
Bapt   15 Mch 1740 Ann the daughter of James Punnet by Ann his wife
Bapt   14 Aug 1743 William the son of James Punnet by Ann his wife
Bapt   1 July 1744 Mary the daughter of James Punnet by Ann his wife m. William Kemp
Bapt   29 Dec 1745 Hannah the daughter of James Punnet by Ann his wife m. William Hicks

Buried   9 June 1741 Ann the daughter of James Punnet
Buried   10 Jan 1746 Ann the wife of James Punnet

when Ann died James married Anns sister Mary on 24 Sept 1747 Heathfield
(this was a shock i didn't know of this marriage)
Mary must have died pretty soon after as on the 29 Sept 1747 Heathfield  he married Mary & Anns sister Elizabeth
(neither time is James listed as widower)

it was thought that Elizabeth was the mother of James son Samuel b.1747/8 but equally now it could have been Mary
I do not have the actual bp. for Samuel but i know he exists for it was him i am descended from!

But what i didn't know was he had a sister Sarah who was also bore of one of the later marriages and not to Ann.

I do not have a bp. for Sarah who was born after 1745 (and before 1775!)

Sarah Punnett married to John Hewens 11.02.1792 Heathfield

a book that has recently come into my possession reads

James obtained a grant of a small piece of waste with another recently erected cottage , where Wilmshurst Cottages now stand on the north side of the main road. Five years later he acquired the freehold of neighbouring Yew Tree Cottage, so it is not quite clear in which of them he lived. Upon his death in 1797, Yew Tree Cottage was left to his daughter and Samuel, said to be his youngest son, inherited the other.

Samuel was indeed his youngest son, or the youngest one i have found!

later in the book it reads


in 1797 Samuel's sister Sarah, the wife of John Hewings (or Hewens) had come into possession of present day Yew Tree Cottage on the death of her father, James Punnett. The cottage was evidently very dilapidated and the Hewens unable to afford repairs as in 1807 ther parish paid for 25 trusses of straw for John Hewings of Punnetts Town and in the following year William Kemp recived payments for rafters supplied for John Hewings house. Finally in 1810 after numerous payments of out-relied, Hewings was removed to the poor house.

'On The Edge the Story of Punnetts Town by Molly Beswick'


James was acutally buried on 23.09.1796 Punnetts Town  so i think 1797 refers to when his will was perhaps proven or probabte divided. - their is only mention of the latter two children (in the book)  of James,  Samuel & Sarah and not any that were produced via Ann
I have not seen James Will or Probate and do not know where to find it as a search on A2A for Lewes RO doesn't bring it up.


so what i am after is Sarah (& Samuel if you happen to come across it) bp.
it would have most likely been at All Saints Heathfield however it could have been at the Independent Chapel at Cade Street, although i am not entirely sure when this came into existence.

there was a Sarah Punnett bp. 1766 in Burwash St Bartholomews she however was the daughter of James b.1739 and Mary nee Hicks.

any help greatfully received.

Thank you


added:~

an afterthought Samuel b. 1747 did not move to Punnets Town until 1783 so i think that Heathfield All Saints be the most likely bp. place for Sarah (& Samuel) as thier siblings were there,
i did entertain the thought that perhaps Sarah might have been a daughter in law rather than a daughter to James this would have meant she married William Punnett and he had died in betwixt times however Sarah marries to John Hewens before James death as a Punnett and thus she cannot be a daughter in law but a real duaghter, if she was Sarah nee ? married William Punnett and then to Joh Hewens i doubt she would have inherited .
i think also that it was probate proven in 1797 not a will for all of the other Punnett children of James had either married or died (except William i don't know whathappened to him)  and thus making their own fortune in the world. isn't probate granted to themost needy ? - oh i don't know i'm rambling on

confused Toni












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Re: is anyone going to Lewes RO before Sept?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 18:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi Toni

I am hoping to go to Lewes soon.
There is a will
Punnett James - Heathfield 1797 - A67 p474.
I will take a look.
Sue
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Re: is anyone going to Lewes RO before Sept?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 August 08 08:08 UTC (UK) »

i didnt know abou tthe will, is that at Lewes?
if so i might just order a copy for them to send to me.

did you know anything aout Sarah before the book?
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Re: is anyone going to Lewes RO before Sept?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 August 08 16:50 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for going to Lewes Sue,

the will as far as i could see doesnot mention Sarah?
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Re: is anyone going to Lewes RO before Sept?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 07:57 UTC (UK) »

further confused on this as

Sarahs father James was buried  26 sept  1796  heathfield
Sarah herself seems to be buried  12  april 1796  heathfield

thus she died before she inherited the cottage in 1797  Undecided

also Zillah found this burial for me

james  hewens s of  john and  sarah 1794

i cannot find any children born to James and Sarah

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Lewes Record Office says that they hold the Hailsham Union Workhouse records but when Zillah asked for them they said they didn't have them

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Re: is anyone going to Lewes RO before Sept?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 13:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Toni

Are you sure that the burial for Sarah 1796 wasn't a daughter.  Sadly I can't check baptisms at the moment on the Sussex Family History Group website as it is down due to hackers  Angry but on the IGI Warbleton batch I did find the following: which puts the cat amongst the pigeons

Sarah Hewens baptised 11 April 1802 at Warbleton to John and Sarah Hewens

and there aren't any other marriages for John on the SMI

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Re: is anyone going to Lewes RO before Sept?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 13:58 UTC (UK) »

There is also a Samuel Hewins baptised at the Independent Chapel on 16 August 1804 to John and Sarah and born 15 June 1804.  Again Hugh Wallis site.

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Re: is anyone going to Lewes RO before Sept?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 09:15 UTC (UK) »

Morning Kerry,

Zillah only gave me the details as above so i don't know if she was wife or daughter of JOhn & Sarah

thanks for finding those other bp's

John remarried (as a widow) in 1826 to Phila Punnett
so there is that gap between early 1800's and 1826 for Sarah to have died but on FHO i could only find 3 possibles burials for Sarah and the latest one was 1796

after several claims for poor relief John was removed to the workhouse in 1810
but in 1813 John made another claim for relief for repairs to his house

it was a shame that Zillah couldnt get to view the actual Hailsham Union records



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SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
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Re: is anyone going to Lewes RO before Sept?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 10:59 UTC (UK) »

I'll add burial for Sarah to list to look for before 1826 and check any more baptisms for you.  All good justification for another visit to the ESRO for me Grin

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