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kascon
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1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« on: Saturday 09 August 08 07:42 UTC (UK) »
Christmas Aiano born 1745 married Mary Polletti in Holborn London in 1782 but thier son Charles (possibly middle name Christmas) was born 1784 in Canterbury Kent.
Dad died in 1813 but any chance that Mary or Charles are still around in either the '1841 or 1851 census please. IGI has Charles death date as 1859 so he should in theory be somewhere its just whether mum is with him. Christmas was born in Italy and Mary had an Italian name even though they married in England so she may have been born Italy as well or that may just be a coincindence.
Charles also had a son called Charles born 1822 and i have the census reports for him and his wife Sarah Ann from 1851 onwards but are Charles senior and grandma Mary still around?

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 August 08 08:55 UTC (UK) »
1841 listed as Charles Aians in the index

HO107 piece 466
folio 7 page 6
Northgate St, St Gregory(Ville) kent

Charles Aiano 55 Victualler Y
Caroline 55 Y
Edward 15 Y
Caroline 12 Y
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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 August 08 09:04 UTC (UK) »
HO107/1625
1851
16 Union St, Canterbury
Charles Aiano, 69, wdr, barometer maker, b Canterbury

(Indexed as Oliano)

Caroline died in Jun 1849.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 August 08 09:06 UTC (UK) »
From the freebmd

Deaths Jun 1849  

Aiano  Caroline    Blean  vol 5 page 19
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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 August 08 09:36 UTC (UK) »
Have you tried Googling Aiano Canterbuty?

Some interesting results including

 'Some notes on the Aiano Family of Canterbury' by Duncan Harrington, Kent Recusant History

Not sure how you'd get a copy though.  Huh
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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 August 08 13:16 UTC (UK) »
I agree; I found this one interesting:
http://www.aianos.co.uk/about.php

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 August 08 14:37 UTC (UK) »
while my mum was here staying i found the site of the company Aianos for my mum and she has taken it with her so she can contact them. it seems that Joseph might be a son who has been missed out somewhere or mispe;t and no one knows about him.
a new cousin i have found through the intenet of the Aianos line has sent me some information that suggests that Christmas and Mary Aiano had 8 children but the information doesnt name them. this would mean that there are lots of Aianos around who have not as yet been identified. Charles 1 is the eldest apparently.
Charles 1 is said to be living 102 Northgate st in 1841 and union st in 51 but it still doesnt name any children. how frustrating.
Charles 2 married Sarah Ann Giles and witnesses were Stephen and Maria Giles and the info suggests they were relatives but gives no other details. id like to find out who they were please.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 August 08 14:44 UTC (UK) »
Have you found a will?

He sounds wealthy enough to have left some money.  You would expect it to list his survivng children.
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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 August 08 16:01 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: kascon on Saturday 09 August 08 14:37 UTC (UK)
Charles 1 is said to be living 102 Northgate st in 1841 and union st in 51 but it still doesnt name any children. how frustrating.

This link - http://www.laslett.info/family/history/thomasandelizabeth-w.php - talks about a John Aiano, who is probably Charles' brother, as John's son is described as Charles' daughter's (Caroline) cousin. 'Cousin' can mean any relation but, in 1871 a John Aiano, 78, is living with his much younger wife (39) and son Charles, so the gaes are right. In 1841 John, 45, is living with his first wife.

Both Bartholomew and Stephen are possible candidates for Charles' brothers, as they were both born c 1791.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 August 08 16:32 UTC (UK) »
id like to know who the 3 John Aiaos were who are on IGI. one is in the 1881 census age 34, another age 21 and there is a marriage of a John whose dad is Charles in 1839 that doesnt seem to correspond with anything i have either.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 August 08 17:00 UTC (UK) »
well ive looked at the site just mentioned above and it does mention 2 more Aiano's Carolien Charles youngest daughter and John her mums cousin. maybe he is one of the above Johns.
il get to the bottom of this if it takes a long time.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 09 August 08 17:02 UTC (UK) »
I hope these are useful:

Burials Canterbury

Christmas AIANO
28th Feb 1813 Holy Cross
Age 67  Abode- North Lane

This matches the Death aynsley found in 1849
Caroline AIANO
6th Apr 1849  St Mary Northgate
Age 65  Abode - St Gregory

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 09 August 08 17:14 UTC (UK) »
yes thank you.
wish i could found out the names of those 2 families of kids though. how annoying that the person who sent the info didnt give the names. im going to try and find him and get in contact.

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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 09 August 08 17:50 UTC (UK) »
William & Catherine PIERCE (nee AIANO) emigrated to New Zealand in 1859.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/queries.htm
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Re: 1841 & 1851 look ups please Aiano
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 09 August 08 18:50 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: kascon on Saturday 09 August 08 16:32 UTC (UK)
there is a marriage of a John whose dad is Charles in 1839 that doesnt seem to correspond with anything i have either.
kas

I've explained that I think John is Charles' brother in an earlier post.

You also ask how Sarah Ann Giles is related to Stephen and Maria Giles. The most obvious people to sign the register are her parents. This would fit with an 1841 entry:

HO107/661/9
Clerkenwell
Stephen Giles, 30, bird cage maker
Maria Giles, 30
Sarah Giles, 15
Harriet Giles, 7
Stephen Giles, 1

I noticed in an earlier search that Bartholomew Aiano was a bird cage maker as well.

I've looked at some of your other posts, and I'm not actually sure what is it that you want to know.

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