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castana1985
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Finch's from Kendal
« on: Tuesday 12 August 08 21:00 UTC (UK) »
I'm looking for information on the Finch family who moved to Manchester from Kendal.
In the 1861 census I have:

Elizabeth Cunningham (widow) aged 71 b. Kendall, Westmorland
Elizabeth Finch (grand daughter) aged 16 Flower Maker b. Kendall, Westmorland
Jonathon Finch (grand son) aged 14 Hooker in Mill b. Manchester

all living at 31 Porland Street, Manchester.

I can't find any information about them before this time. I'm looking for parents?? If/where they lived in Kendal? etc..

Thanks in advance.

Tracy
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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 21:47 UTC (UK) »
Per freebmd - a copy of the birth cert will give his parents names

Jonathan Finch March qtr 1847  Manchester  Volume: 20 
Page: 828

A large part of the Manchester 1851 was water damaged during storage which may be why you cannot find them on the 1851 census

Some parts have been restored and are on CD 
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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 21:57 UTC (UK) »
A possible marriage from Lancashire BMD

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1844

FINCH Thomas CUNNINGHAM Mary Prestwich, St.Mary Bury CE18/8/112

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Galium
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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 22:07 UTC (UK) »
There doesn't seem to be anybody named Finch in Kendal in 1841, but there are Cunninghams, so it may be that only  Elizabeth and Jonathan's mother was from Kendal.

Lancashire BMD:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi?county=lancashire

has a marriage at St Mary, Prestwich of Thomas Finch and Mary Cunningham in 1844.

Some of the Manchester census books for 1851 are water damaged, and aren't available on Ancestry, which may be why this family are hard to find. 
I'm not sure where it is possible to view these census books, but if you ask on the Lancashire board someone may be able to help.

IGI has these baptisms of children born to Thomas and Mary Finch;

ELIZABETH ANN FINCH  Birth: 23 OCT 1844
Christening: 01 JAN 1845 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire
JONATHAN FINCH
Christening: 23 MAY 1847 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire
MARY ANN FINCH
Christening: 10 OCT 1847 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire
EDWARD FINCH  Birth: 16 JUN 1845
Christening: 16 NOV 1845 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire
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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 22:16 UTC (UK) »
Possible Marriage
Dec qtr 1844 Manchester 20 721
Mary Cunningham and Thomas Finch

Also 1851 Census living 7 Brown Street Market Street Manchester
Ref HO 107 2229 page 47

Elizabeth Cunningham Head Widow 52/54? Char Woman Born Kendal
Mary Finch                   Dau    Marr    24 Kept by husband B Yks Ottley
Elizabeth Finch       Grandau             6                              B Manchester
John           "           Grandson           4                                     "
William       "           Grandson           1?                                   "
plus
Elizabeth Cunningham Grandau      19 Milliner                       "

1841 Possible
@ Red Bank Market Street Manchester
Elizabeth Cunningham    44            Not born in Co
MARY            "                  15            Yes in Co
Elizabeth      "                    9             "        "

Most seems to match the Jonathon on 1861 age fits with John 1851

Will look for Thomas and Mary FINCH on 1861 parents of Elizabeth and Jonathon.

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castana1985
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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 August 08 19:22 UTC (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your help!

I would assume that the parents would be Thomas and Mary!! Grin

If so, then grandma would probably be Elizabeth/Caroline Cunningham.

If it says 'supported by husband' - does that mean that Thomas was alive and working elsewhere?

Any more ideas would be great!!

Thanks again.

Tracy
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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 August 08 19:42 UTC (UK) »
Tried to find Thomas Finch and Mary (Cunningham) on 1861 but Ancestry not playing ball.

Yes I would think that Husband living/working elsewhere but contributing to her upkeep.

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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 August 08 19:46 UTC (UK) »
Pam

Have you got access to Kendal parish registers.. Huh

can only find one elizabeth cunningham in IGI for the area

Baptism; 25  Dec 1788 Kendal Westmorland
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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 August 08 19:53 UTC (UK) »
Sorry I don't have access.

Pam
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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 August 08 20:22 UTC (UK) »
Pam
Finally found the 1851 census and it does say that Mary was supported by her husband who 'works abroad'!!
No wonder I can't find him! Wink
Thanks for your help
Tracy
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Re: Finch's from Kendal
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 August 08 18:57 UTC (UK) »
Hi Tracy,

Further to the above info, I would agree that a birth certificate for her daughter Mary would not only give you the name of Elizabeth's husband, but also her maiden name (unlikely to be Cunningham). You could then research the IGI for Kendal under the correct surname.

Good luck

Chris
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