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Topic: Using IGI - general confusion! (Read 531 times)
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edinjam
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Hello - joined yesterday and have already had some really great assistance.
I have a query about using the IGI index/Familysearch.org site. First of all I tended to end up in a search area where I couldn't put in the county but I think I've solved that by going straight to the IGI search. Once I've inputted the names and they've come back to me with the name and brief details of a likely candidate that I then click on I sometimes see a Pedigree icon and/or a Family icon - when I click on that I usually get what I can only describe as an empty family tree ie. numbered boxes with no info in them. I noticed a button to download the record but couldn't do it.
I am wondering whether it is because I have a Mac using Firefox - I am guessing I may have to do a lot of tinkering with my preferences - unfortunately my knowledge of these things is sadly lacking. BEFORE I submerge myself into the technical mire can someone tell me whether there is a whole layer of information that I am missing out on at the moment. Should I be seeing a tree where the person I am looking forward is linked up into a family tree with all the names of parent's spouses etc. or is that just a dream of mine?!
Any advice from IGI experts and afficianados welcome! Thanks.
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Ecneps
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Another way of using the IGI if you find a baptism and have parents' names, is to do a parents only search, entering the parents' names and nothing else in the search boxes, that brings up baptisms of all children with parents of that name.
Also, I use the county search http://www.rootschat.com/links/03au/ Click on the county, then scroll down to the town, then click on the C number for baptisms or the M number for marriages. In the search on the page that comes up enter surname, that gives all events for that surname in that town.
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When you get the "All Resources" search box,click on IGI in the left hand column,then in the new search box which appears enter name etc,search for BMD,then if searching for someone in the UK,click on Region-British Isles,then enter Country then County.It is not necessary when doing this to enter any Batch Number.
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edinjam
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Thanks for all those replies.
Barbara - the tip for the county search was a good one - straight away I found something - unfortunately after striking lucky the first time my computer decided it didn't like it and when I clicked on any batch numbers after that it didn't respond  But I am sure it will get over this if I restart the computer.
Nick - the pedigree thing - if what you are saying about there sometimes being only one or two people in a pedigree then that's what i am getting. I just did the county search for Oxfordshire (thanks Barbara!), found Bodicote where I know my relative Johanna Bonner was born and found her christening (hurray that was easy!) So I clicked and got her IGI individual page - her name was in Blue and in capitals and next to her name was a Pedigree icon - the event was her christening 10 Jan 1790 Bodicote Oxford England. Further down the page was Father: JOHN BONNER with a Family icon next to his name and underneath Mother: SUSANNAH. When I clicked on the pedigree icon next to Johanna I got a skeleton tree with 15 numbered boxes. No1 was Johanna with her christening date in it - No2 was John Bonner (her father) with birth,marr,death written in it but no dates or details and no.3 was Susannah with birth,death written in it but no dates or details - the rest of the boxes representing the parents/grandparents were empty.
I can't quite see what use this is as it is just a graphical illustration of what Johanna's individual IGI profile page said. If it had any more detail in it then I could see the point. When I clicked on John Bonner's name within the tree it gave me another IGI profile page with his name at the top with a Pedigree and an Family Icon and then under Marriages, Susannah as spouse.
however, when I went and did a search in the main part of IGI for a John Bonner to a Susannah circa 1770 plus or minus 10 years I got the record of their marriage in Adderbury Oxford England - John Bonner and Susannah North. So that information was there all the time! That's the kind of information I would have expected to have seen when I clicked on the pedigree/family icons - all details relating to that person - their marriage, their children's christenings etc. Do you see what I mean?
Anyway - it is probably a case of getting familiar with it and that will come with practice I hope! It would help if my computer was up to it.
Another question: when you download a record what do you get? Do you get MORE information or is it just a way of collating your records.
Phew! Thanks for your replies so far - look forward to more pointers!
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aghadowey
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Had a look at Johanna Bonner's record on IGI and see the problem- it's not your computer. The pedigree icon you clicked is for a pedigree chart (only her and parents filled in). The record for Johanna is an extracted christening record which gives her parents' names so only those names appear on the attached chart.
If the record is a submitted one you sometimes get more details but often the family details aren't connected to each other and you need to keep searching by surname, place, etc.
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edinjam
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Thanks for the further clarification. Good to know about the Gedcom files - I won't go to the trouble of adjusting all my preferences to allow my Mac to download them then - doesn't seem much point! Reassuring to know that my computer was not hiding lots of information from me - the boxes are empty because they are empty.
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Piglet01
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Hello Edinjam
I take it you've also got Johannas siblings from the IGI? All 'extracted'
1. JOHANNA BONNER Ch: 10 JAN 1790 Bodicote, Oxford, England
2. LOVE BONNER Ch: 13 OCT 1793 Bodicote, Oxford, England
3. JOHN BONNER Ch: 13 JUL 1795 Bodicote, Oxford, England
4. JOHN BONNER Ch: 10 JUL 1796 Bodicote, Oxford, England
5. MARTHA BONNER Ch: 17 SEP 1797 Bodicote, Oxford, England
6. SUSANNA BONNER Ch: 15 MAR 1801 Bodicote, Oxford, England
7. WILLIAM BONNER Ch: 19 DEC 1802 Bodicote, Oxford, England
8. ANN BONNOR Ch: 10 MAY 1807 Bodicote, Oxford, England
Regards, Steve :O)
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Roxburgh: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson
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edinjam
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No Steve, ahem, I hadn't got those siblings yet - but have applied the tip you sent me about searching for other siblings - hadn't applied it to Johanna yet - crikey that's good stuff. So, just to double check again - we can be sure that these are HER siblings I assume because they are extracted from actual records that I presume name the same mother and father? Only siblings come up that have been extracted rather than just "recorded" by LDS members?
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Piglet01
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To the best of my knowledge - yes,
It's the children born to a couple of the same name in the same parish.
As you're aware - some times only the fathers name was given on the entry. Everyone knew, then as now who the mother was :O)
I'm more than willing to be corrected.
Also you tend to get a bit of a 'gut' feeling - and the ages seem right. With the list given, my assumption would be that John born in 1796, died and another male child born the following year was given the same name.
However, be careful about making assumptions. Good luck with your searching.
Regards, Steve :O)
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Roxburgh: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson
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avm228
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No Steve, ahem, I hadn't got those siblings yet - but have applied the tip you sent me about searching for other siblings - hadn't applied it to Johanna yet - crikey that's good stuff. So, just to double check again - we can be sure that these are HER siblings I assume because they are extracted from actual records that I presume name the same mother and father? Only siblings come up that have been extracted rather than just "recorded" by LDS members?
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In this case, each of the records Steve has listed for you is an extracted record. But this will not always be the case; a "parent search" will throw up all the baptisms entered with the relevant parent names, whether extracted or submitted. You need to click on each one to see whether it's extracted or submitted.
As Steve says, you will get a feel for it. Often the format of the index entry looks different for extracted and submitted records. Bear in mind also that parents often had several children with the same name, reusing names after deaths in infancy.
It's also worth issuing a "health warning" about any entry which gives an estimated date of birth ("about 1808 of Bodicote"). These are submitted entries, often generated by simply subtracting 25 years (in the case of a male) or 21 years (in the case of a female) from a marriage date. Of course as we all know, not all males marry at 25 or females at 21, not all marriages are first marriages, and not all brides and bridegrooms marry in the parish of their birth. There are so many assumptions underlying these entries that they're really not worth very much at all.
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