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lawyerlady
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I'm wondering if anyone has any knowledge of these?My grandmother Doris Muriel Hillson was born in 1899 in Shrewsbury and appears to have been immediately fostered by Herbert and Harriet Jones in Winnington Shropshire as she is with them in the 1901 census.Her parents are named as Mary Hillson(nee Galliers) and Frank Hillson ( a police detective)It has always been a family mystery as to why she was fostered.Herbert Jones died in 1910, His wife having died in 1906.He died in Berrington workhouse hospital.Whilst searching through letters from the superintendant for 1910 yesterday, I found letters regarding my grandmother being placed two weeks after Herbert's death with another foster parent, the letter specifying that in accordance with the terms of the prior agreement she was to be visited occasionally to check she was being treated correctly.I was told by the archives staff that it was almost unheard of for specific names to appear in letters.I would like to know if people did arrange through boards of guardians to have childen privately fostered?I am trying to track down who her parents are and why they would have fostered her but they are nowhere to be found on any records.Can anyone help???
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Just a thought- could the parents been living abroad someplace unsuitable for small children? I know this happened with relatives whose parents lived in India but rather than being fostered they lived with relative or stayed at boarding schools. Find My Past has passengers leaving U.K. 1890-1960- might be worth having a look.
Another possibility might be that father was overseas and mother too ill to look after child (if she had tb or was hospitalised for example).
Have you found a marriage certificate for the parents?
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Thank you Pauline.That Mary Galliers married a Richard Griffiths. Apparently Galliers is a common name in Shrewsbury,just to complicate things!!
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I think you will find that theirs are the only two names for that page, yet there may have been others not yet transcribed. (unless you have that cert of course)
What about the birth address?
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yes I sent for the marriage certificate in hope it would be the right one but it wasn't. The birth address was 85 Abbey Foregate Shrewsbury.I also have a copy of the baptism record which was at the Abbey a month after the birth and was a private baptism.Both parents names are again listed.
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Hello all
What does Doris say about her father on her marriage cert? Are any of her rellies present as witnesses?
Have you found the HILLSONs on any census or any deaths for her parents?
Kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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The birth address was 85 Abbey Foregate Shrewsbury.
At 85 Abbey Foregate, Shrewsbury in 1891 was this household:
Henry Cookson Head M 35 Tailor Jane do Wife M 33 Olive do Daur S 2 Henry do Son S 1mo Hannah Hill___* Boarder S 55 Milliner
all born Shrewsbury except Jane who was born Clive, Shropshire.
RG12/2111/108/3
*The second half of this name has been overwritten - could be just about anything - Hillier, Hillman or even Hillson.
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As she was born at an address near the abbey and baptised there, it's possible things were arranged through the church? I think you'd have to quiz the staff at the archives as to what survives.
There's also a mysterious widowed Mary E. Galliers, aged 31, b. Bromfield, Shropshire, in Acton in 1901, with son Victor Lay Galliers - can't work out who her husband was or find an appropriate marriage. She claims to be widowed.
There is a Mary E. Galliers in the 1881 census, meanwhile, who is born in Bromfield, about 1868, and whose father, William Galliers, is Superintendent Of County Police! (they are living at Bridgnorth St Leonard in 1881).
from freebmd, this appears to be Mary Elizabeth Galliers - there is no marriage or death listed for her in freebmd. The police connection is quite tempting!
There is a book called Policing Shropshire, 1836-1967 - apparently during the research for the book a card index of police officers was created which is now at Shropshire archives. link
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I have been pursuing the possible connection with Mary galliers whose father was the police superintendent as I found his records in the Shropshire Archives(I've been spending quite a bit of time down there in my holidays!)The police connection was a hopeful link.In the police records there was no trace of a Hillson.I did wonder if Victor was illegitimate and whether possibly she was my grandmothers mother but couldn't keep a second llegitimate child,i think in the 1901 census she is in London as a widow,a servant to a barrister.I think I typed the address she was born at wrong as she was born at 82 not 85 and a Mrs Ashman lived there and in 1901 she was boarding policemen there.Would Mary have gone to all the trouble of inventing Frank Hillson and his profession of police detective do you think, why not just leave the father blank?I can find no trace of a Frank Hillson anywhere and I have checked under Millson and lots of varients.It is all a mystery but one I would so like to solve as my aunt and mum , her surviving children are in their 80's now.I am going back to the archives soon to check further back in the records so maybe that will throw something up.In the 1000 pages we checked in the letters for 1910 there were only two children mentioned by name, one my grandmother and one a boy being sent to the navy.
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