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Topic: Wokingham Memories It Shall Be. (Read 4809 times)
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jc26red
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Lesanne, that was another possibility to me with the big Cedar!
I did find an old photo which has similar gable houses to the left but the road curves round and is not straight. The photo I was looking at didn't have any of the buildings opposite or the pub. I checked on Thames-web for a listing of pubs through the ages in Windsor and nothing is coming up resembling Rose and Crown. There was/is a Crown and Cushion but not in the right place.
I know I shall end up driving up there this afternoon to check
this is where you meant Lesanne, the Trooper is just beyond
on the right
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jc26red
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same tree but earlier, note the gabled houses, but the road bends
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jc26red
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close though  I did spend a few minutes looking at it last night but I couldn't make my mind up and St Leonards Rd would be the obvious road with the cemetery so close!
My grandad had a house in St Leonards Hill during the 50/60s and a cousin also lived in St Leonards road back in the 80s
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Hhodgetts
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Well, everyone, I had a really long chat a few days ago over the phone with my much older second cousin who still lives in Berks, and though he cannot be sure about the location of the picture he is pretty sure it is of Armistice Day in 1918. His thoughts on the picture were that it could be Ascot as some of the family were in that area towards the end of WW1...... sorry I can't be more help than that, but it does at least give us a much more positive view on the actual event taking place. Makes sense that there might be some sort of remembrance plaque on the front of the vehicle yet the bunting is out. I guess there would have been very mixed emotions about the events taking place that day and in the months and years to follow. Thank you all for your contributions.
Following this particular line of my family, the sacrifice of the boys and men around the globe of that era that fought for our freedom has now become much more meaningful to me and I thank all of them for that! Especially my Great Uncle Reg whom I never got to meet, as he died of his wounds on the Western front. He has not been forgotten.......... nor the place where he lies, I hope to visit that site soon.
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Northumberland; Johnson, Johnston, Dodds, Rutherford, Gray, Kennedy, Wilson, Sanderson, Davidson and other Border Marauders as they are discovered on this journey.
Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.
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RanR
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You've got some wonderful pictures still remaining in your family. My grandmother tore all of ours up just before she died! so we have nothing of her siblings or her parents - great shame.
I too lost 3 gt uncles in the great war - they were brothers. One died at Paschendale and just made it onto the Menin Gate in Ypres (Leper) by a day or so. One died in Egypt 3 weeks before the end of the war! And the final one died in Palestine, killed by the same shell that injured his brother (my grandfather) out of the war. So my g. grandparents nearly lost all 4 of their sons.
My husband's grandfather had toddled off to Canada just a few months before the war to get farming work (aged 14/15 from Warwickshire), so joined up there in the Canadian army and got a medal and a very good pension for the rest of his life even though he settled back in England after the war, for his part in the battle of Festeburt in May 1915 near Ypres. He was shot in the chest but saved by his pocket watch in his breast pocket. The family still has the watch with a big dent in the rim!
Anyway, back to your original photo. Ascot sounds good. I still like those trees and they have them there! Very glad you were able to make some sense of it in the end.
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Berks: MILLARD
Cornwall (west): HOSKEN, WOOLCOCK, DONNITHORNE, TREWEEK, TRESEDDER, MITCHELL, NANCARROW, REYNOLDS
Cambs/Hunts: LANGFORD, WRIGHT
Derbys: MOTTRAM
Hants/Surrey (London): BRACKSTONE, SCOREY, DENSLOW, POULTER, WYLD, KINCHIN, RANGER, LEWIS, DAVIES
Herts: JUDD, UNCLE, RUMBALL
Nth Yorks: MOON
Suffolk/Essex/Cambs: WINNY, SARGENT, DICKERSON, RUSH, WATTS, PICKESS, MASON, SCOTCHER, ADAMS, FERNSWORTH
Shropshire: GOUGH, BYWATER, POULTER
Warks/Worcs: WHITE, SALMON, WOODWARD, WIMBLETT
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joyce341
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My Dad aged two in 1891
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I notice you have Bywater and Shropshire,my GGreat Uncle Peter Hickman born Cleobury Mortimer married a Mary Ann Bywater.
Joyce
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Hickman,Cleobury Mortimer,Shropshire/Staffordshire, Parkes,Dudley,Beddoes Lindridge,Cleobury Mortimer,
Asker,Snettisham,Norfolk,Newby Howe,Kensington,SuffolkLawrence,Greenwich,Bermondsey.Putman,Kensington,Hertfordshire.
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RanR
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I'll send you a PM about it all later today if that's ok.
It does sound as if they might be related in some way - even if distantly.
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Berks: MILLARD
Cornwall (west): HOSKEN, WOOLCOCK, DONNITHORNE, TREWEEK, TRESEDDER, MITCHELL, NANCARROW, REYNOLDS
Cambs/Hunts: LANGFORD, WRIGHT
Derbys: MOTTRAM
Hants/Surrey (London): BRACKSTONE, SCOREY, DENSLOW, POULTER, WYLD, KINCHIN, RANGER, LEWIS, DAVIES
Herts: JUDD, UNCLE, RUMBALL
Nth Yorks: MOON
Suffolk/Essex/Cambs: WINNY, SARGENT, DICKERSON, RUSH, WATTS, PICKESS, MASON, SCOTCHER, ADAMS, FERNSWORTH
Shropshire: GOUGH, BYWATER, POULTER
Warks/Worcs: WHITE, SALMON, WOODWARD, WIMBLETT
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newburychap
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Well, everyone, I had a really long chat a few days ago over the phone with my much older second cousin who still lives in Berks, and though he cannot be sure about the location of the picture he is pretty sure it is of Armistice Day in 1918. Did they have armistice day parades in 1918? Seems a bit unlikely.
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jc26red
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I think its more likely to be the return of the unknown soldier but where they are is still a mystery. I'm not sure about Ascot either, its a bit hilly and the roads are not that straight.
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Hhodgetts
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Did they have armistice day parades in 1918? Seems a bit unlikely.
Well, I understand what you mean, but there were celebrations all over the country and in many other parts of the world on that day in 1918 or possibly maybe even more likely 1919. People were very glad that the war was over despite the fact that some military action was still taking place in Russia and other places. I have tried to find a few images of places in this country where Armistice Day celebrations took place and thankfully I have found some which I think give more credibility to my cousins thoughts on the matter. I will post some links here as I do not know about the copyright issues in the articles and photos, but you will see that the fashion of the time matches that of my own picture and of course the Union Flags are out too with other bits of ribbon etc. etc. I think we have to remember that the celebration and thankfulness for the end of the war was somewhat different to what we now call Armistice Day and Remembrance Sunday, these days we now celebrate were not invented in 1918, hence I realise what you mean, I think!
Here are the links I promised. I am not trying to create a debate, just add evidence that hopefully confirms my cousins thoughts.
Armistice Day Celebrations 1918 / 1919 in;
Dover
http://photosforthefuture.thehistorychannel.co.uk/?cmd=photo_view&photo_id=2136
Biggleswade (this one really confirms it for me)
http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/webingres/bedfordshire/vlib/0.digitised_resources/biggleswade_streets_highstreet_armistice.htm
Lichfield
http://www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/content/image_galleries/old_photos_staffs_fast_track_gallery.shtml?17
I just wish I / we could pinpoint the location of the picture I have, though I think I will have to accept that it may never be!
Philip
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Northumberland; Johnson, Johnston, Dodds, Rutherford, Gray, Kennedy, Wilson, Sanderson, Davidson and other Border Marauders as they are discovered on this journey.
Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.
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Hhodgetts
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All I question is the precision of the dating of the photo.
If only I had a relative alive that was there on the day eh...... I have spent a bit more time rumaging through events that took place in the first half of the 1900's and the only event I can come up with that might be of significance to this picture is George VI's coronation in 1937. The only sticking point on that date for me is the style of the vehicle because if it is indeed the coronation that vehicle would have been vintage even then lol. But perhaps given the event the owner of that vehicle decided to dust and polish it and get it out for the day, since it was such a special event. Still doesn't get me the town though. I have given up on that now.
Philip
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Northumberland; Johnson, Johnston, Dodds, Rutherford, Gray, Kennedy, Wilson, Sanderson, Davidson and other Border Marauders as they are discovered on this journey.
Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.
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Bigshotte
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Looks like Coronation to me.
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