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Topic: Henry SMITH and Dinah Ellen GRAY (Read 4012 times)
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An65
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Dinah/Ellen married Francis Elliott b.cir 1833 Leic previously married to Sarah Mills b.cir 1832 Newark.
He was s/o Edward Elliott and Martha he being born 1802 Willoughby On The Wolds Notts and brother of Ann Elliott who married William Smith.
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deb usa
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Okay An65 
when did they marry? ...I cannot find them in 1891
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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An65
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I dont know sometime after Francis and Sarahs last child: Christalena in 1878
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deb usa
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Hi ...yipppeeee found them in 1891
Louth
Ship Farm
Travelling Vans
Francis ELLETT mar 59 Travelling Barber b Buckminster
Ellen ELLETT wife 54 b Skreklington
Ester Ellett dau 21 b louth
Constance Ellett dau 19 b Loughboro... is she the daughter of Henry Smith and Dinah ..? Constance Smith was b c 1870
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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ooo could this be it
Francis Ellett Dec q 1883 Grantham
Ellen Gray dittovol 7a p 938
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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An65
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ah! KNEW I had an email with it on somewhere!!
Ellen Gray m. Francis Elliott 15.12.1883 Grantham both of Grantham, he a wid she listed as a spinster!! Its possible she and Henry were never officially married.
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An65
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better late than never!!
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deb usa
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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I've also been trying to figure out who Isaac Robinson was and how he was connected ,,,, he was the uncle of Fred, Barthy, Christopher in 1881... (single and aged 44) 
I see his parents were Stephen Robinson and Catherine Hayes who married 10 JUN 1824 Westborough Cum Doddington, Lincoln, (IGI)....
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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1901
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in Caravan
Brackenborough rd
Frank ELLETT mar 71 horse dealer stable b Lincs Candlesby
Ellen wife 68 Scredington
Herbert SMITH grandson 7 b Louth
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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An65
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There was a family called Robinson who were travellers, but I only know of one set of names. James and Whisby Robinson (nee Smith) They were certainly having children in the Lincs area. There was Charles 1826 Scrivelsby Lin, Onan (female) 1827 Hawerby cum Beesby, and Repentance 1828 Doddington On Bain. There was also a son, Sampson b.cir 1830 Norfolk or Suffolk.
The link is probably with Whisby Smith........?
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mongojoby
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You've done some impressive stuff there Deb, that 1901 return with grandson Herbert Smith is a great find!
I guess it would make semse if Ellen and Henry never married, seeing as there is no obvious record.
Cheryl, perhaps it would be worth investing in Henry's death certificate as if it mentions Ellen there is a chance it might mention it, if indeed they wern't married? There is only one record that fits based on his MI; Henry Smith 40 July-Aug-Sept Sleaford 7a 259.
Regards, Jo
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deb usa
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Hi Jo
Thanks for that  I wonder who Herbert belongs to?
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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mongojoby
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I can't say I fancy our chances of finding out atleast until the 1911 census is available! With Francis and Sarah having so many girls and the Elliott/ Smith family links there must be a good chance that one of them married a Smith, on top of the potential for it to be Ellen's grandson.
Still it provides another lead, which you never know could proide the crucial link to bring everything together later on!
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deb usa
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Hi again
Just found this on the 1851
Spalding, deanery of South Holland
Christopher Smith unm lodger 19 hawker of tapes, cottons b Donington (transcribed Dorrington)
Charlotte Smith unm 20 ditto
C Smith (female) 15 unm ditto
lodging with a few hawkers of tape, a skinner, brazier and a grinder
Now your Christopher s/o Bathwell and Charlotte was bapt 23 FEB 1834 Brothertoft, Lincoln, extracted.
but there is also a Charlotte Smith d/o Matthew Smith and Charlotte bapt 01 JUL 1832 Bicker, Lincoln, extracted and
Constance Smith d/o Matthew Smith and Charlotte bapt 20 MAR 1836 Caythorpe, Lincoln, extracted ...she could be the female C Smith above ...
what do you think?
I wonder if they are other siblings??
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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