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Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« on: Tuesday 19 August 08 20:12 UTC (UK) »
Hi can anyone help me? I am looking for any info. on this person. All I know is she was born in approx 1865 in Ironbridge . I have found her on the 1881 census as a servant in Lambeth,  she is also on the 1891 and 1901 in Lambeth, where she is married to an Isaac Meadows. I have unable to find her in the 1871 census or on the IGI. Any help appreiciated.  Thanks Wendy.
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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 21:36 UTC (UK) »
Could this be her birth registration:

Mary A Lloyd, Madeley, March q, 1866, vol 6a Pge 645


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Added - I think this was a Mary Ann  Sad
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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 22:14 UTC (UK) »
A possible in 1871

Back Street, Wellington
RG10/2806 Folio 122 Page 42/3

John Lloyd, 33, Broomaker (sic), b. Wellington
Sarah, 30, b. Walcot
George, 12
Mathilda, 8
Sarah,J, 6
Mary, 4
Emma, 2
John, 1 month

All children b. Wellington


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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 22:15 UTC (UK) »
in the 1881 census her year of birth is earlier  Huh

1871 has Mary Lloyd b 1863; Mary A Lloyd b 1857 and Mary Ann Lloyd b 1868 all Madeley.

Her marriage certificate should give her father's name which may help to identify her.

best wishes
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 22:18 UTC (UK) »
What is your 1871 ref, Heywood?

The Madeley one was a Mary Ann  Sad

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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 22:38 UTC (UK) »
There's also this one:
Alice Mary Lloyd, Wellington, June q, 1863, v. 6a p. 762


Too many other possibles - think the marriage cert route is the best way forward.

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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 22:52 UTC (UK) »
sorry about the delay gadget- lost wireless connection and had to restart  Roll Eyes


1871 RG10; Piece: 2755; Folio: 13; Page: 19
Mary Ann Lloyd b 1868 but she is still with parents in 1881

1871 RG10; Piece: 2756; Folio: 22; Page: 39
Mary Lloyd 8 yrs - still with parents

1871 RG10; Piece: 2755; Folio: 11; Page: 16
Mary Lloyd b 1857

(If I recall the 1881 Lambeth one shows born 1859)

I think Wendy has already tried 1871 census and this just echoes your view that there are too many possibilities. Certificate is best for father's name.

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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 23:26 UTC (UK) »
I see what you mean:

1881 - aged 22 b. Ironbridge
1891 - aged 25 b. Shropshire  (Isaac 24)
1901 - aged 36 b. Ironbridge  (Isaac 34)

It is quite possible that she reduced her age to tie in with Isaac's  Undecided
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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 23:33 UTC (UK) »
an interesting one here:

1871 - RG10/2757 Folio 10 Page 13 - Broseley. Elesy *(?) Mary Lloyd,  aged 13, b. Ironbridge. Elder sister, Alice. Father - Samuel.


*1861 - RG9/1858 Folio 111 Page 38   has her as Emily M   Undecided
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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 10:49 UTC (UK) »
I agree with the possibility of her reduced age- often seen.

Wendy- certificate needed  Wink
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 11:03 UTC (UK) »
Has Wendy got the marriage ref?

Nearest that I can find on FreeBMD is

St Saviour, Southwark, Dec q, 1890, vol 1d page  226

Alice Mary Lloyd and Alfred Meadows on same page  Roll Eyes Undecided Huh


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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 16:01 UTC (UK) »
oh heck  Roll Eyes

I checked him in censuses and he is Isaac throughout. Their child though is Isaac A.
Then I looked in indexes - there is an Isaac Meadows St Olave \march 1890 - possible bride Mary Barber.  Huh

I was thinking that Wendy has birth certificates to work from (Isaac and Mary's children)  - what do you think Wendy - all this dialogue is between me and Gadget and we know nothing  Shocked Tongue Lips Sealed
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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 16:05 UTC (UK) »
Saw the Barber one and thought that it couldn't be correct. 

So who are we looking for  Undecided


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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 16:16 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Wednesday 20 August 08 16:05 UTC (UK)
Saw the Barber one and thought that it couldn't be correct. 

So who are we looking for  Undecided


Gadget

The other couple do seem to be married to each other in censuses so that Isaac Meadows presumably married Mary Barber.
Wendy - you have all the answers  Wink
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Re: Mary Alice Lloyd Ironbridge
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 16:18 UTC (UK) »
Don't know about you, heywood, but i like a good mystery  - must be the Shropshire blood  Grin
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