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Topic: Mary Ann Slowey Glasgow Scotland (Read 781 times)
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pancho
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Im posting this in the hope that Clee01 notices it I Think That
My great grandmother Mary Ann Slowey is the person who was witness
at her grandmother Catherine Donachie`s marriage to John Moodie at
St Marys Church Pollokshaws Road Glasgow on December 8th 1902 so if
you see this Catherine get in touch if you want .
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Sloey,Slowey,O`Connor ,Hammond,Coulston ,Daily,McCabe ,McCartney,Cunningham ,Martin, McKenna,Cairns Fox,Martin Co Monaghan,Glasgow ,Liverpool,Wolverhampton,Wallasey.
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frangeb
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Hi, Pancho! Frank Gebhart here!
Is there any truth to the story I'm told that you are the Slowey surname guru of Common Room 1?
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pancho
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Hello Frank
I am the only one in common room 1 reasearching sloweys so yeah I suppose I am
How are you ?
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Sloey,Slowey,O`Connor ,Hammond,Coulston ,Daily,McCabe ,McCartney,Cunningham ,Martin, McKenna,Cairns Fox,Martin Co Monaghan,Glasgow ,Liverpool,Wolverhampton,Wallasey.
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frangeb
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Doing OK, Pancho!
If you followed the thread in CR 1 you'll know that I'm looking for my long-lost ggf, John/James Slowey, b. 1841, and his family, wife Elizabeth Davidson, b. 22 June 1842, son, John/James, b. 1865, and daughter, Elizabeth, b. 1866.
I have no primary records on any of them. Elizabeth D's birthdate comes from her death certificate in St. Louis, Missouri. Her parents were John Davidson and Elizabeth Cline/Clyne. It is said in the family that John was English. It is said further that the children were born in Glasgow but they are not found in Scotland's people, at least not when I searched there in 2003.
I don't know where your searchings are concentrated, Ireland, England, or Scotland. If you have knowledge of Scotch records could the children possibly be found in local church records in Glasgow that are not part of the Scotland's people database? The family was probably Catholic.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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MonicaLesl
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Hi frangeb
There is this entry on the 1861 Scottish census:
Mary Sloey 40, head, b Glasgow
James Sloey 20, son, shoemaker, b. England
Mary Sloey 15, b. England
Patrick Sloey 13, b. England
Address: 43 High Street, Glasgow Central District
Monica 
Added: In case relevant later, this look a possible entry for this family in Liverpool in 1851. As transcribed but original looks like Sloey:
James Kory 30, (can't make out occupation), b. Ireland
Mary Kory 28, b. Ireland
James Kory 10, b. Liverpool
William Kory 8, b. Liverpool
Margt Slowey 6, b. Liverpool
Joseph Slowey 2, b. Liverpool
Patt Slowey 1 day, b. Liverpool
Margt Maginn 49, mother in law b. Ireland
Address: 7 Chancer St. Liverpool
HO107; Piece: 2176; Folio: 119
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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 No joy with that James, he shows as married to a Catherine in 1871. Still a shoemaker in Glasgow.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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frangeb
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Thanks for your timely reply, Monica, it is much appreciated.
The age of the James S. you have uncovered is right, my ggf was born in 1841, but according to ScotlandsPeople only two male Sloweys were born in Lanark - I presume this includes Glasgow - between 1860 and 1870 and neither was named John or James. Furthermore as far as I know my ggf worked in heavy industry - mining or railroads. At least on this side of the ocean he did.
Somewhere along the line John/James S. met and married Elizabeth Davidson (both Soundex) but no such union is found in Scotland from 1855 to 1926. Most probably they were married elsewhere (or maybe not at all). I had two red-hot candidates in Lancashire; John S., right age, living in Prescot, and Elizabeth D., right age, living in Preston, just 20 miles from Prescot. They were both married in the last quarter of 1862 but, unfortunately, not to each other. Try as I may I couldn't get them together.
Well, I rave on! Please share with me any suggestions you may have.
Can you think of a way around these difficulties so as to save the James you have uncovered?
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MonicaLesl
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Frank
I think we can ignore that James b. 1841. I've checked the 1881 census and he still shows in Glasgow with wife Catherine and in addition, his brother Patrick also shows living with him.
You've had a long slog on this one looking at your previous posts in other forums, I sympathise.
Looking at the info you have managed to find so far:
- What birth places show for the family in the 1870 US census in PA?
- You lose James Snr prior to 1880, again what birth places show for the remaining family in the 1880 census in Arkansas?
- Have you ever managed to find any reference to the family's crossing to the US?
You mentioned somewhere that you had found a possible marriage for John/James (why the confusion on names?) and Elizabeth Davidson in Ireland. Did you ever manage to follow up that marriage entry? I don't know if you are aware but there is a new pilot database from Family Search which includes new information for BMDs for Ireland http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch. I have little knowledge on research in Ireland but it would be worth you posting on the general Ireland board with as much information as you have managed to find and let the Irish experts have a look around for you
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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frangeb
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Thank you once again for your continued interest, Monica.
This is what I know about John Slowey:
o He was born in 1841, probably but not certainly, in Ireland. The town and county are unknown.
o He married Elizabeth Davidson/Davison in about 1863. The location is unknown. Elizabeth is the daughter of John Davidson, thought to be English, and Elizabeth Cline/Clyne.
o Their first two children, John (b. 1865), and Elizabeth (b. 17 Feb 1866), were born in Glasgow, Scotland.
o The family emigrated to North America in about 1869 where it is found in the 1870 census of Allegheny County with the surname Sloy. This is a recognized variation on the Slowey surname. John is found at several addresses in Pittsburgh and in Allegheny City, now northern Pittsburgh, between 1870 and 1877.
o Three more children were born in Allegheny City, Eleanor (1870), Kate (27 Oct 1872), and Mary Josephine, my grandmother, (5 Feb 1876). These dates come from birth or baptismal records.
o The family moved to Little Rock, Arkansas after 1877 where John Slowey farmed and perhaps worked for the St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern Railroad. The family is shown in Bogy Township of Jefferson County, Arkansas in the 1880 census. You'll find him in Ancestry with the surname Slo_m_ey.
o John Slowey died between June 15, 1880 and December 31, 1882. Vital statistic records do not begin in Arkansas until 1914. His place of burial has not been found.
I found John Slowey and Elizabeth Davidson listed in both the FreeBMD and the LankashireBMD databases.
In the FreeBVMD database is found for marriages recorded in the fourth quarter of 1862
Slowey John Prescot 8b 903 and
Davidson Elizabeth Preston 8e 497
Clicking on 497 one finds that Elizabeth is married to one John Potter. Similarly one finds that John Slowey married Mary Smyth.
Prescot and Preston are in different registration districts with different record books. The chances of a mis-transcription are essentially zero.
Accidents do happen, though. The LancashireBMD database has John Slowey
married to JOHN Howey!! Elizabeth Davidson is still married to John Potter.
What makes the whole thing even more maddening is that in the 1861 British census there is a 20-year-old John Slowey living in a boarding house in Lancashire, presumably as a single man.
So the story is that a 20-year-old single Irishman comes to Lancashire looking for work in 1861, meets the daughter, Elizabeth, of the Englishman, John Davidson, and marries in 1862 .... except the records don't support the script. Reality is sometimes cruel!
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MonicaLesl
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It is so hard isn't
There is an Elizabeth (Elizth) Davidson showing in 1861 England, born 1842, daughter of Ellen, born and living in Preston who might be the same Elizabeth you found marrying in Preston the following year to a John Potter.
Re the Scottish births, not seeing anything at all for young John and Elizabeth. IGI at www.familysearch.org is very good for Scottish births in this period. You can search IGI for Scottish births using just first name of child and full name of mother (helps a lot to find illegitimate births and also where father's surname has many variants). Nothing at all shows that is relevant to the info you have.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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frangeb
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Thanks for looking, Monica. If you should come across anything significant in the future please favor me with the information.
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apanderson
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Look what I found!
Unfortunately, not a single name apart from 'Slowey'
The stone is in St. Kentigern's Cemetery and I think it's in Section 2.
Anne
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sancti
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There are 2 birth records for John Sloweys on SP
Jan 11 1864 to Patrick Slowey and Marg. Ann m.s. C?
May 11 1868 to Patrick Slowey and Bridget m.s. Burns married 8 June 1866
Occupation for father on both is Shoemaker Journeyman so possibly a re-marriage for Patrick after 1st wife dies.
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apanderson
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There's this one as well .......
Name: SLOWEY, BARTHOLOMEW
Initials: B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Ordinary Seaman
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Victory.
Age: 18
Date of Death: 26/10/1943
Service No: P/JX 521457
Additional information: Son of Bartholomew and Mary J. Watson Slowey, of Possilpark, Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. 12. Grave 767.
Cemetery: GLASGOW (ST. KENTIGERN'S) ROMAN CATHOLIC CEMETERY
See: (The Scottish War Graves, St. Kentigern's thread, Page 20)
http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?p=7172&mforum=scottishwargraves#7172
Anne
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Chesapek
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Hi
My Grandfather was a Slowey from Wishaw in Lanarkshire I have information Slowey Families from that area
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