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josey
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GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« on: Thursday 21 August 08 12:24 UTC (UK) »

I am researching the GROVES family from the Littlebredy area.

In 1857 Sarah GROVES born Littlebredy Dorset ca 1836 married George MORRISH born ca 1829 in Rockbeare [GRO ref 1857 Tiverton Q1 5 b 661]; by 1861 they had moved to Handsworth Staffs where they had a daughter Alice in 1876.

On the 1841 census
Littlebredy Dorset: Sarah GROVES aged 6 born ca 1835 d/o George aged 36 born ca 1805 & Jane aged 35 born ca 1806 [all born in county]; siblings are James 13 born ca 1827, George aged 12 born ca 1828, Charles aged 5 born ca 1835, Benjamin aged 1 born ca 1840, Mary aged 15 born ca 1825 & Anne aged 8 born ca 1832. 

familyhistoryonline has a Jane COURTNEY marrying George GROVES in Portisham on 5 Jan 1825 with witnesses John Hain, William Sanson. IGI has a Jane Courtenay baptised 25 APR 1801 Portisham, Dorset, England parents John & Elizabeth plus another Jane Courtenay born ca 1804 [age in 1841 census is 35 so could be 30 - 40 so born 1801 - 1811] - no batch numbers for these baptisms. Then IGI has a John Courtney born ca 1776 Portesham marrying Elizabeth Sandford 26 May 1801.

Any information on the Dorset GROVES family gratefully received. Also any information that could help confirm that the George GROVES/Jane COURTENAY marriage of 1825 is the one of the parents of George GROVES born ca 1829. Many thanks.

Josey
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 August 08 14:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi Josie,

The Little Bredy page on www.opcdorset.com has 1861 census with some Groves listed.  (numbers 19 and 33)


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josey
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 August 08 15:08 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks Nanny Jan, will have a 'bogle' at that page.

I am constantly amazed at how quickly it is possible to get such useful help on the rootschat site.

Josey.
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 August 08 13:25 UTC (UK) »

does this help at all?
taken from the BIVRI VOL 2-
all baptised portisham dorset to parents george groves and jane-
mary bapt 7th aug 1825
james bapt 12th aug 1827
george vincent bapt 9th aug 1829
ann bapt 27th march 1831
sarah bapt 29th june 1834
charles bapt 3rd may 1836
benjamin bapt 1st sept 1839
regards
alli
p.s confirming
george groves married jane courtney 5th jan 1825 portisham
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 August 08 13:41 UTC (UK) »

the BIVRI VOL 2 -
jane courtney bapt 25th april 1801 portisham.parents john and elizabeth courtney
also a sibling
joan courtney(not another jane) bapt 6th may 1804
regards
alli
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 August 08 16:13 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks, alli. That's very useful.

Would you recommend in general getting the BIVRI CDs? It appears there is more information than on familysearch.org.

Josey
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ENGLAND; Marylebone HAYTER, TROUSDALE, TROWSDALE Cornwall HAMPTON, TREMELLING W Yorkshire CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 August 08 16:50 UTC (UK) »

it all depends on the county you are researching and the dates really.most of my ancestors are somerset which isnt very well listed on them but countys like dorset,cheshire,wiltshire and lincolnshire are quite well listed.i still think its the best pressie the old mans bought me in a long time lol
regards
alli
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 August 08 17:04 UTC (UK) »

I presume you have the 2nd edition - 17 CD set? There is a copy on ebay at £20 at the monent [will probably go up though] - do you think this is worth a bid?

Cheers, Josey
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87th REGIMENT Royal Irish Fusiliers:MURRAY
ENGLAND; Marylebone HAYTER, TROUSDALE, TROWSDALE Cornwall HAMPTON, TREMELLING W Yorkshire CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD
CANADA; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE; Quebec [Montreal], Ontario ALLEN, O'DRISCOLL
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 August 08 17:25 UTC (UK) »

always worth a look if its in good condition and doesnt go up too much in price
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 August 08 19:24 UTC (UK) »

Thanks!!
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87th REGIMENT Royal Irish Fusiliers:MURRAY
ENGLAND; Marylebone HAYTER, TROUSDALE, TROWSDALE Cornwall HAMPTON, TREMELLING W Yorkshire CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD
CANADA; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE; Quebec [Montreal], Ontario ALLEN, O'DRISCOLL
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 18:10 UTC (UK) »

HI,
I was intersted to hear about Sarah Groves. I am trying to research my Gran's family. Her father was Isaac Groves who was born in Little Bredy 1866. His father was George Groves brother of Sarah and was born in Portesham.
They lived at Foxholes in Little bredy and White Hill Lodge. Isaac worked for the Williams family at Bridehead. Hea was a coachman. He married Kate Nobes in 1897 and they were living in Osmington where they had 3 children one being my Gran. He was still a coachman working for the Williams family. However his wife Kate died of TB in 1904 less than a year after my Gran was born. Isaac married again in 1907 to Susanna Howe who was a cook. They then lived in Charminster still working for the Williams family. I don't know if you have any information on this. It is really intersting as I live close to Little Bredy. 
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 18:26 UTC (UK) »

HI,
 I was intersted to hear about Sarah Groves. I am trying to research my Gran's family. Her father was Isaac Groves who was born in Little Bredy 1866. His father was George Groves brother of Sarah and was born in Portesham.
They lived at Foxholes in Little bredy and White Hill Lodge. Isaac worked for the Williams family at Bridehead. Hea was a coachman. He married Kate Nobes in 1897 and they were living in Osmington where they had 3 children one being my Gran. He was still a coachman working for the Williams family. However his wife Kate died of TB in 1904 less than a year after my Gran was born. Isaac married again in 1907 to Susanna Howe who was a cook. They then lived in Charminster still working for the Williams family. I don't know if you have any information on this. It is really intersting as I live close to Little Bredy. 
allanpathart

her father being george vincent?bapt 1829?
regards
alli
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Re: GROVES Sarah ca 1836 Littlebredy d/o George & Jane
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 02 April 09 06:39 UTC (UK) »

Yes I do believe his name was George Vincent. I would love to know any information either going back in time or forwards.
Thanks Allanpat
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