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Re: deVall/Brown in Dudley
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 22:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Louise, That sounds about right.  I also think they are all connected.  Certainly share some family names.  I have a strange letter written by one of his daughters that gives his father's name as William, and sister and brothers' names as Martha and Thomas.  It also says, though, that William's father was a French duke who fled the French revolution and sought refuge with Sir Charles Wolsey near Rugeley. I've checked with them and they highly doubt it as Sir Charles was such a staunch supporter of the revolution he helped to storm the Bastille!  I think there might have been a little Victorian bigging up of the family history.  It did say that William died in a fire Jan 2 1815 and I have found a newsarticle about a Wm Devall who died on that date in an acid factory - doesn't really sound like the kind of place a duke's son would work even if he was a refugee! Anyway, nice to know they had an imagination.  Any chance that Wm's wife's last name was Hawley?
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Re: deVall/Brown in Dudley
« Reply #16 on: Friday 30 January 09 16:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alice

I have Marys surname as Hawley and i have their marriage as 25 Dec 1806 and i believe Williams parents were a Samuel deVall and Martha Brindley.   I got in contact with another woman who has a Mary deVall in her family i think this is Williams sister and so does she she is in the process of transcribing the Rugeley parish reg so i will see if anything comes up.  She was saying that quite a few deValls are registered in the Blithfield church which is on the Blithfield Estate just outside Rugeley the Estate and Church belonged to the Bagot family and she thinks the family worked for them this is in the first part of the 1700's she sent me bits and pieces and one bit was about a family called the Smallmans who were related to her Mary deVall in 1861 they had a William e deVall staying with them age 24 and a Carpenter born in Leominster this may be another son of Samuel and Sarah. 
My mother was a deVall and told me that her dad or grandad had looked into the family history and said that the family had come from either Catalan France or Spain and that there was some scandal of them coming from the illicit relationship of some poor woman and a priest it definatly sounds like they had good imaginations lol.
If you send your email address to my personel messages i will email you the info i got from the other lady and anything else i have.

Louise
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deVall - Dudley Birmingham Rugeley
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Re: deVall/Brown in Dudley
« Reply #17 on: Friday 30 January 09 23:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Louise,

This is great!  Very interesting.  So some bit are based on the truth!  One of Samuel's other sons had another howler about his having been a body guard to Queen Victoria.

Anyway, I'm not very good at this site yet, how do I send a personal reply vs a posted item?  Or have I just done so?
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Re: deVall/Brown in Dudley
« Reply #18 on: Friday 30 January 09 23:10 UTC (UK) »

if you look under my picture at the side at the bottom ther is a wee green scroll click on that and you send a pm through that.  I read somewhere else about a queens body guard i will have a wee look just now
Louise
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deVall - Dudley Birmingham Rugeley
Graham - Port Glasgow Clydebank Glasgow
Gallacher - Dumbarton Ireland India Madras Calcuta
Sanders - Birmingham
Marris - Port Glasgow Fife Ireland
Fitzsimmons - Enniskillen
Davis - Birmingham Dudley
Brown - Dudley Bristol
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Re: deVall/Brown in Dudley
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 07:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Louise and Alice, this is all great stuff, I too think they are all connected and one big Hatter family, some of the sons or grandsons could have been apprenticed as Tailors. I am fascinated by your stories of the French Revolution and the Blithfield connection.  I found some Baps and Marriages from Colton which is near Blithfield.  Once the weather is better I will go to Blithfield Churchyard and look at the Tombstones.  It is up an unkempt road, really muddy at the best of times!  Will be in touch best wishes linell.
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Re: deVall/Brown in Dudley
« Reply #20 on: Friday 06 February 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi all, My information indcated that our Devalls were in the Rugely graveyard...Interesting to see what you turn up tho!
Alice
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Re: deVall/Brown in Dudley
« Reply #21 on: Friday 06 February 09 20:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alice, will have a look around Rugeley Churchyard too, mind you a lot of the old Tombs are difficult to read, apparently it's the acid rain which erodes them, so I have been told, maybe easier to look at the Parish Register.  The name of Martha seems to run through the generations, it does in the George 1786 line, one of his Granddaughters was Martha Maldiva Devall, wonder if that was someone's surname?  Best Wishes from linell.
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