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Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« on: Tuesday 26 August 08 16:05 UTC (UK) »

I've been looking for where my late grandad was born. On his Birth Cert it says 99 Newtown Road. I contacted Reading Library to see if they could look it up on the electoral reg for me from 1920 - 1925.

I got a reply today saying that NewTown Road does Exist, but only Place Names, Not house numbers.

This is really strange and I don't know where to go from here.
I know newburychap told me that it could be another way of saying he was born in the workhouse.
But I wanted to dig a little deeper and see if the house did exist.

From what Reading have told me then, is it likely that the address is real or is it ficticious?

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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 17:45 UTC (UK) »

Hello,

According to the 1929 Kelly's Directory for Newbury, 99 Newtown Road does not exist but it does exist in 1973.  Perhaps new houses were built.

Do you know the name of the people occupying 99 Newtown Road?

Regards, Berkslass
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 17:55 UTC (UK) »

Well my grandad who was born there, his surname was powell. His mother was powell and her maiden name is seymour.

Was there anyone named kempster living there at all?
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 18:09 UTC (UK) »


Hi,

    In 1891 in New Road is a William Seymour age 70 b Basildon, Berkshire, occ garden lab

    and his wife Mary Ann age 67 b Mongewell, Oxfordshire. They also have 2 lodgers with them.

      RG12 / 990 / 20 / 10    Address New Road, Pangbourne.

      Could this be your family?


                Sue Smiley
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 18:27 UTC (UK) »

I don't think so.

Is that at 99 newtown road?
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 18:30 UTC (UK) »

Hello,

There is nothing listed in Newtown Road for Powell, Seymour or Kempster in 1929.

There is a George Seymour living at 68 Camp Close which was a road off Newtown Road.
Charles Thos Seymour living a 4 Greenham Road (not far from Newtown Road).
Jn Seymour living at 34 Victoria Street.
Herbt. Wm. Powell living at 72 Russell Rod
Jas. Thos. Powell living at 1 Newport Road
Mrs Powell living at 75 Gloucester Road.
There is nothing listed for Kempster in 1929.

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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 18:51 UTC (UK) »

Hmm I suppose my family could have moved away by 1929.

Do you possibly have any entries for 2 Nursery Cottages in Speen?
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 19:14 UTC (UK) »

No Sorry, only 4 Nursery Cottages which was occupied by Silas Coster.

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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 20:43 UTC (UK) »

According to the 1929 Kelly's Directory for Newbury

1929 Kelly's?   Didn't realise they were doing Newbury directories that far back.
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 21:19 UTC (UK) »

B17

There is a place called Newtown just outside Newbury on the A339.  If you look at Multimap the A339 runs straight out of Newbury to Newtown before bending off to the east.  Could this have been a road to Newtown that was called Newtown Road or even the road was really callled something else but known as 'the Newtown Road' years ago and has disappeared under the dual carriage way.

Just a thought.

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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 21:26 UTC (UK) »

According to the 1929 Kelly's Directory for Newbury

1929 Kelly's?   Didn't realise they were doing Newbury directories that far back.
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 21:28 UTC (UK) »

Hello Newburychap,

My Husband bought it from the Secondhand Bookshop in Newbury a while ago.  When new it cost 2/6 net. 

Would you like any lookups?

Berkslass
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 21:42 UTC (UK) »

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There is a place called Newtown just outside Newbury on the A339.  If you look at Multimap the A339 runs straight out of Newbury to Newtown before bending off to the east.  Could this have been a road to Newtown that was called Newtown Road or even the road was really callled something else but known as 'the Newtown Road' years ago and has disappeared under the dual carriage way.

Hmm Maybe.

Am I right in thinking that there is an "Old Newtown Road" in Newbury?

I tried to look up when Newtown road was opened. It opened in 1852 or sumthing like that.
So I wondered, if it was open then, why isn't 99 newtown road in existence in 1924??

Strange.
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 23:01 UTC (UK) »

Here are the listings for Newtown Road - west side
Here is Pound St & Argyle St
Harley Theodore Rutherford M.A.
(The Litten)
Raymond's Almshouses
1 Seward Chas. Edwd
Harding Wm
3 Gibbs Chas
4  Leach Jas
5 Hughes Saml
6 Norris Mrs
7 Blackford Mrs
9 Wright Mrs
10 Watts Mrs Annie
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25 Arnold Miss
27 Hicks Mrs A
29 Veale Mrs C
3 Yeo Mrs L
33 Richardson Fredk
35 Wakefield Jsph
37 Collins Albt
39 & 41 Grimes Mrs. L. M. grocer
Old London Apprentice (The)
P.H. Sidney Chas. Lewis
here is Derby Rd., Andover Rd., & Old Newtown Rd..
St John's Churc h of England Infants' School
Thorn Thos sen. (Ashcroft)
61 Thorn Bros. monumental masons
     Newbury Cemetery (J. A. Johnson, sec.; Alfd. Walt. Cray sexton)
69 Liddle Mrs
71 Parfitt Edmnd. J. P.
here is Old Newtown Road
back to Newtown Road
105 Giddings Mrs
143 Rokeby Arms (The) P. H. Geo. Kinch
here is Camp close
here is Monk's La

There are quite a few gaps and I am not sure whether this is due to people not wishing their names put in the Directory or to other reasons.  West Berks Library might have a map of the area for that time.

As you see, there are two entrances to Old Newtown Road.  I cannot find the names you are looking for in Old Newtown Road.

Do you know where your Grandfather was Baptised as the Baptism Register might have the address of where his parents were living. 

Newbury Library has the Parish Records for St Nicholas Church but not for St John's Church.  Berkshire Records Office have both St Nicholas and St John's.

Berkslass
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 23:15 UTC (UK) »

I have just sent an email to newbury library, requesting someone to look up the church records for me.

That is so strange why there is a big gap in the directory for Newtown Road. It's almost like hardly anyone lived there!

My grandfathers Mother lived in Speen at the time of his birth.

I don't know how long she stayed in speen, because all her family came from welford and boxford in newbury.

I'll let you know if and when I get a reply from newbury library.

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