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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 08:13 UTC (UK) »

That is so strange why there is a big gap in the directory for Newtown Road. It's almost like hardly anyone lived there!

The gaps indicate empty plots - the southern end (south of St John's Road & Andover Road) was sparsely populated. The directories list ALL the houses, there was no suggestion of paying to be in it and hence people being missed. No 99 did not exist in 1924. 

Looking at No 99 (http://maps.live.com) it looks like a 1950s build (I would need to go through the directories to be sure). Its the one to the north of Grove Court (built on the site of the Rokeby Arms) with the new bungalow built in its back garden. The plots obviously didn't turn out the way they envisioned - I suspect that bigger, higher prestige houses were built than anticipated. So the Rokeby, originally 143, ended up as 101. Nowadays the plots are being split and houses built in gardens, perhaps we will eventually end up with the number of plots they orginally contemplated.
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 08:26 UTC (UK) »

Would you like any lookups?

Very kind of you to offer. I am currently compiling a database of Newbury pubs - and hence am interested in all their directory entries, However, it is a bit much to ask you to look them all up. If it is okay I will put together the list from 1928 (Blacket's directory) for you to modify (there will be a few changes of landlord, perhaps a pub name change).
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 09:05 UTC (UK) »

Hello Newburychap,

Look forward to hearing from you.
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 11:07 UTC (UK) »

So it really does look like the address doesn't exist. That is dissapointing. I guess I'll never know for sure now where he was born.
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 15:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi berkslass,

Here is are the entries I have extracted from the 1928 Blacket's directory:

Old Bell   Andover Road   167   inn   Spencer   J   
Wellington Arms   Andover Road   4      Lewis   S C   
   Andover Road   142      Cox   C   Mrs
Derby Arms   Andover Road         Cook   F H   
   Bartholomew Street   Brewery House, 11      Burton   Wm   
Brewery Tap   Bartholomew Street   17 & 18+   South Berks Brewery Co Ltd   Hobbs   A H   
The Tiger   Bartholomew Street   24   common lodging house   Franklin   H   
Coopers' Arms   Bartholomew Street   39      Whyman   _   Mrs
Black Boys   Bartholomew Street   62      Brown   E   Mrs
The Globe   Bartholomew Street   148   inn   Taylor   C   
Bricklayers' Arms   Bartholomew Street   137      Dewe   T   Mrs
Falkland Arms   Bartholomew Street   124      Callow   A C   
The Dolphin   Bartholomew Street   113      Booth   B J   Mrs
Eight Bells   Bartholomew Street      p h   Pratley   O   
Nag's Head   Bartholomew Street   91   p h   Spencer   A   
   Broadway   1 & 2   Fergusons Ltd, wine merchants & licensed house   Wicks   F J   manager
Hunt's Bar   Broadway   24      Garratt   W J   
Queen's Arms   Broadway   15      Brown   W   
King Charles Tavern   Cheap Street   54      Morris   J   
Sun   Cheap Street   68   hotel   Evans   E   Mrs
Axe & Compass   Cheap Street   73      Tanner   E A   Mrs
The Pigeons   Cheap Street   5      Spracklen   J   
Weaver's Arms   Cheap Street   17      Nunns   A   
Newmarket   Cheap Street   21   inn   Ledger   J P   
The Catherine Wheel   Cheap Street   35      Cambridge   F J   
Lamb   Enborne Road   5   inn   Pinchin   E   Mrs
The Plough Inn   The Folly   1      Woodley   G   
   Gloucester Road   93      Hopgood   C   
Gloucester Arms   Gloucester Road   94            
Blue Ball   Greenham Road   25   inn   Taylor   R   Mrs
Railway Junction   Greenham Road   2   hotel   Hill   F   
Adam & Eve   Greenham Road   28   inn   Harris   _   Mrs
Red House   Hampton Road   12   inn   Seymour   T   
Cross Keys   London Road   8   hotel   Rummins   H   Major
The Star   London Road   20   inn   Purton   A F   
The Greyhound   London Road   100      Johnson   F   
The Robin Hood   London Road   104      Cox   W G   
The White House   London Road         Heath   T   
The Black Bear   Market Place   2      Fabry   W   
Queen's Hotel   Market Place   8   hotel   Kinkead   E L   
The Hatchet   Market Place   12   hotel & restaurant   Allin   H J   
   Market Place   14   wine & spirit merchants   Wells, Job & Son      
White Hart   Market Place   24   hotel   Butt   W H   
Waggon & Horses   Market Place         Cook   Mrs R    
London Apprentice   Newtown road         Odell   R   
Rokeby Arms   Newtown road      143   Kinch   G   
Castle   Northbrook Street   25   licensed h   Harris   T   
Anchor   Northbrook Street   101   p h   Alexander   G T   
   Northbrook Street   67   licensed victualler   Woods   C H   
The Monument   Northbrook Street   57   licensed house   Humphries   A   
George & Dragon   Northbrook Street   52   licensed house   Mathews   C   
Rose & Crown   Northcroft Lane   28      Smith   E G   
Drummer   Northcroft Lane   18   inn   Parker   J   
The Rising Sun   Oxford Road   2      Williams   H   
Chequers Hotel   Oxford Street         Stride   A A   manager
Bacon Arms   Oxford Street      hotel   Evans   J R   
The Wheatsheaf   Shaw Road   89      Smith   J   
The Old Dog   Shaw Road   112   inn   Dawe   H   
The Cock   Shaw Road   108   inn   Shelton   A G   
Two Brewers   West Mills   2      Stockley   F E   Mrs
The Lion   West Street   39      Miles   W J   
Borough Arms   Wharf Road   1      Cloke   F W   
Rising Sun   Wharf Road   11   inn   Wilder   S   Mrs


The formatting is dodgy - I can't see how to set tabs in this message editor. If you cut and paste the listing lines from here into Excel or similar and it should sort itself out.

Don't worry if you can't find the Tiger or Weaver's Arms - they closed down at about this time, their last entries would be in 1928 or 1929. Any changes, notably of landlord, are of interest.

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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 08 October 08 15:15 UTC (UK) »

I've been looking for where my late grandad was born. On his Birth Cert it says 99 Newtown Road.

Came across a reference to 99 Newtown Road today - in Vera Garlick's The Newbury Scrapbook. p54. She gives it as the address of the workhouse ...
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 12 February 09 20:17 UTC (UK) »

99 newtown road, Does exist, live 6 doors down from it.

20/11/2003 £472,500 Det. F No Map 99, Newtown Road, Newbury, West Berkshire, RG14 7DD

Sadley though it  is a reletively new  house built within last 20 years.

The original 99 newtown road, was infact part of the workhouse, and none of this is left.

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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 12 February 09 20:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi berkslass,

Here is are the entries I have extracted from the 1928 Blacket's directory:

Old Bell   Andover Road   167   inn   Spencer   J   
Wellington Arms   Andover Road   4      Lewis   S C   
   Andover Road   142      Cox   C   Mrs
Derby Arms   Andover Road         Cook   F H   
   Bartholomew Street   Brewery House, 11      Burton   Wm   
Brewery Tap   Bartholomew Street   17 & 18+   South Berks Brewery Co Ltd   Hobbs   A H   
The Tiger   Bartholomew Street   24   common lodging house   Franklin   H   
Coopers' Arms   Bartholomew Street   39      Whyman   _   Mrs
Black Boys   Bartholomew Street   62      Brown   E   Mrs
The Globe   Bartholomew Street   148   inn   Taylor   C   
Bricklayers' Arms   Bartholomew Street   137      Dewe   T   Mrs
Falkland Arms   Bartholomew Street   124      Callow   A C   
The Dolphin   Bartholomew Street   113      Booth   B J   Mrs
Eight Bells   Bartholomew Street      p h   Pratley   O   
Nag's Head   Bartholomew Street   91   p h   Spencer   A   
   Broadway   1 & 2   Fergusons Ltd, wine merchants & licensed house   Wicks   F J   manager
Hunt's Bar   Broadway   24      Garratt   W J   
Queen's Arms   Broadway   15      Brown   W   
King Charles Tavern   Cheap Street   54      Morris   J   
Sun   Cheap Street   68   hotel   Evans   E   Mrs
Axe & Compass   Cheap Street   73      Tanner   E A   Mrs
The Pigeons   Cheap Street   5      Spracklen   J   
Weaver's Arms   Cheap Street   17      Nunns   A   
Newmarket   Cheap Street   21   inn   Ledger   J P   
The Catherine Wheel   Cheap Street   35      Cambridge   F J   
Lamb   Enborne Road   5   inn   Pinchin   E   Mrs
The Plough Inn   The Folly   1      Woodley   G   
   Gloucester Road   93      Hopgood   C   
Gloucester Arms   Gloucester Road   94            
Blue Ball   Greenham Road   25   inn   Taylor   R   Mrs
Railway Junction   Greenham Road   2   hotel   Hill   F   
Adam & Eve   Greenham Road   28   inn   Harris   _   Mrs
Red House   Hampton Road   12   inn   Seymour   T   
Cross Keys   London Road   8   hotel   Rummins   H   Major
The Star   London Road   20   inn   Purton   A F   
The Greyhound   London Road   100      Johnson   F   
The Robin Hood   London Road   104      Cox   W G   
The White House   London Road         Heath   T   
The Black Bear   Market Place   2      Fabry   W   
Queen's Hotel   Market Place   8   hotel   Kinkead   E L   
The Hatchet   Market Place   12   hotel & restaurant   Allin   H J   
   Market Place   14   wine & spirit merchants   Wells, Job & Son      
White Hart   Market Place   24   hotel   Butt   W H   
Waggon & Horses   Market Place         Cook   Mrs R    
London Apprentice   Newtown road         Odell   R   
Rokeby Arms   Newtown road      143   Kinch   G   
Castle   Northbrook Street   25   licensed h   Harris   T   
Anchor   Northbrook Street   101   p h   Alexander   G T   
   Northbrook Street   67   licensed victualler   Woods   C H   
The Monument   Northbrook Street   57   licensed house   Humphries   A   
George & Dragon   Northbrook Street   52   licensed house   Mathews   C   
Rose & Crown   Northcroft Lane   28      Smith   E G   
Drummer   Northcroft Lane   18   inn   Parker   J   
The Rising Sun   Oxford Road   2      Williams   H   
Chequers Hotel   Oxford Street         Stride   A A   manager
Bacon Arms   Oxford Street      hotel   Evans   J R   
The Wheatsheaf   Shaw Road   89      Smith   J   
The Old Dog   Shaw Road   112   inn   Dawe   H   
The Cock   Shaw Road   108   inn   Shelton   A G   
Two Brewers   West Mills   2      Stockley   F E   Mrs
The Lion   West Street   39      Miles   W J   
Borough Arms   Wharf Road   1      Cloke   F W   
Rising Sun   Wharf Road   11   inn   Wilder   S   Mrs


The formatting is dodgy - I can't see how to set tabs in this message editor. If you cut and paste the listing lines from here into Excel or similar and it should sort itself out.

Don't worry if you can't find the Tiger or Weaver's Arms - they closed down at about this time, their last entries would be in 1928 or 1929. Any changes, notably of landlord, are of interest.


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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 February 09 20:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi Newbury Chap,

I have just seen your post about Newbury Pubs and I can't think why I missed it.  I will look up the Pubs in Kelly's and get back to you . 

Berkslass

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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 12 February 09 20:50 UTC (UK) »

Information on the workhouse here:-

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Newbury/Newbury.shtml
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 03 May 09 10:53 UTC (UK) »

On the 1928 Blacket's Pub directory, at the Globe Inn Newbury a C Taylor was identified, is any information available about when he arrived at this Inn and how long the family remained. Could be a distant relative.

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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 03 May 09 12:03 UTC (UK) »

From directories: Charles Taylor was at the Globe from 1915 to 1928. He was not there in 1913 or 1930.

Which is as close as I can get at present. I am still collecting data and will, eventually be able to put dates to his being granted the license and when his replacement takes over.

The Globe is now the Snooty Fox.
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Re: Newtown Road Newbury - No address.
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 18:23 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou for that information, the information that I have is that the C stands for Charles Taylor, who could be a great-grandfather long deceased, I don't know even a rough date of birth or a estimate of his age or any other family names of individuals that lived in the Globe at that time, I would hate to have to wait until the 1921 census becomes available!

Thanks Newburykeith 
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