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philipd
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Re: Re Graham family - Askrigg (Swaledale) area
« Reply #15 on: Monday 07 September 09 08:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Have you or anyone else managed to go back any further than Jeffrey Graham b abt 1730.  Jeffrey is my great great great great great great grandfather.

Phil


Hi superwhite & daniel1111

I came across your posts on here and think we may be connected. Mt Gr Gr Gr Grandfather was James Crookey Graham born in Askrigg in 1808. My Gr Gr Grandfather was his son Richard Graham (born 17th November 1848). James moved his large family from Askrigg to Padiham where many of them seemed to have got jobs in the cotton industry. Gr Gr Grandfather Richard did really well in Padiham and became a mill owner - but later went bankrupt after some business deal went bad. My Gr Grandfather Walter Graham was born in Padiham in 1874, he worked as a cotton mill overlooker. His youngest daughter was Dorothy Graham (1914-1993), who married Edgar Lord. Their only son was Donald Lord (emigrated to New Zealand 1963) and his eldest son was me: Stephen Lord (born 1965).

Full details of all the Grahams going back to Richard Graham are in an old family bible - can give you details if you really want. I was never able to trace further back than James Crookey Graham, but now looks like I can Smiley Any further information that either of you have I'd love to see it Smiley

There was an old story the family that our Grahams were distantly related to the Grahams of Netherby Hall, but don't know how true this is. According to the story our Grahams challenged the Netherby Grahams in court for ownership of the Hall - this seems a bit far-fetched to me, but who knows...

Regards,
Stephen
Auckland, New Zealand
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Re: Re Graham family - Askrigg (Swaledale) area
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 07:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Philipd

It looks like four of us on this thread are all related to this Jeffrey Graham. I have talked to superwhite about his connections but not to daniel1111 so don't know how he fits in. My line goes: Jeffrey Graham of Carperby, John Graham b1756, James Crookey Graham b1808 (who moved to the Burnley area), Richard Graham b1848 my gr gr grandfather, and 4 more generations to me. Can send you the full details if you like.

I think superwhite has quite a lot of information on the Grahams of the Askrigg area. Sounds like it might be relevant to both of us. Perhaps I can ask him to get in touch with you directly.
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Re: Re Graham family - Askrigg (Swaledale) area
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 09:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi all

I have previously had correspondence with several people on this site, but four of us appear to share one common ancestor:

Jeffrey Graham of Carperby, North Yorkshire.
This gentle was my wifes g.g.g.g.g. grandfather (not g.g.g.g. grandfather as I stated previously!)

The other three correspondents are:
1) Grungefrog (Stephen Lord of New Zealand)
2) daniel1111
3) Philip D.

I currently have trees on Genes Reunited and on Ancestry.  If any or all of you would like to contact me directly, my email address is:

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Regards

Phil Haley (Superwhite)
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Re: Re Graham family - Askrigg (Swaledale) area
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 11:33 UTC (UK) »

Phil:

I can not take the Graham line any further back than c 1730.

But Jeffrey Grahan born c 1730 at Carperby married Alice Crookey May 3rd 1757 at Aysgarth.
She was bap  at West Burton June 26th 1737 and died April 12th 1810, also at West Burton.

She was dau of Thomas Crookey bap Nov 18th 1698 at West Burton and Ann Dunn of Bearpark who were married at Aysgarth Nov 3rd 1721.

This Thomas was son of James Crookey of West Burton and Elizabeth Sympson who married at Aysgarth Feb 1st 1697.
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Re: Re Graham family - Askrigg (Swaledale) area
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 13:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Many thanks fo trying.

I plan to visit Askrigg over coming weeks.   I doubt I wil be able to access and parish records on my visit though.

For my information only.  What sort of information is recorded on wedding records from 1730s.  I guess unlike today the fathers name is not listed.

Phil
Phil:

I can not take the Graham line any further back than c 1730.

But Jeffrey Grahan born c 1730 at Carperby married Alice Crookey May 3rd 1757 at Aysgarth.
She was bap  at West Burton June 26th 1737 and died April 12th 1810, also at West Burton.

She was dau of Thomas Crookey bap Nov 18th 1698 at West Burton and Ann Dunn of Bearpark who were married at Aysgarth Nov 3rd 1721.

This Thomas was son of James Crookey of West Burton and Elizabeth Sympson who married at Aysgarth Feb 1st 1697.
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Re: Re Graham family - Askrigg (Swaledale) area
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 13:48 UTC (UK) »

Phil,

As you are aware I have already been in contcat with you via your Ancestry tree.  I no longer subscribe to Genesreunited.

Last night I also looked at www.familysearch.org for Jeffrey Graham and found a Christening 1st Jan 1776, Aysgarth, Yorks.  Father Jeffrey Graham.  Whereas on the same website they have a Jeffrey Graham born 16/12/1798 and John Grham b abt 1760 and Jane Metcalfe b abt 1762 as the parents.

PS Can you snd me the URL of your ancestry website.  Just search for it at work and unable to locate.

Phil
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Re: Re Graham family - Askrigg (Swaledale) area
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 14:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Maggie from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dalesfhs/ has today sent me the following:

Sorry but there is no birth for Jeffrey Graham on either Askrigg/Aysgarth PRs. There is however, a birth for Alice on the Aysgarth PRs which makes me think that as was the tradition a marriage took place in the Bride's parish. So Jeffrey may have been born elsewhere. There is a birth for a Jeffrey on Family Search in1733 Dent Yorkshire son of John Graham. The records for Askrigg and many other parishes are kept in the Northallerton Records Office Yorkshire.
 
You may have the following records but I will send them anyway>
Jeffrey Graham  married Alice Crookey 3 May 1757 At Andrew Parish Church Aysgarth Banns, Witnesses: Christopher Sympson, John Thompson and Christopher Sympson Junior. Vicar: John Dupont.
 
Found these burials:
Alice Graham w/o Jeffrey burial 12 April 1810 Aysgarth
 
Jeffrey s/o Jeffrey and Alice burial 27 March 1776
Ralph s/o Jeffrey and Alice burial 11 July 1770
Alice d/o Jeffrey and Alice burial 4 June 1802
Jeffrey ?senior burial 20 May 1806.

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Re: Re Graham family - Askrigg (Swaledale) area
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 19 September 09 22:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Have just been away on an overseas trip so haven't been following up on the recent messages. If you're reading this philipd and daniel1111 I'm just curious to find out where you both fit into my family tree?

There seem to be a LOT of people that are descended from that Jeffrey Graham of Carperby (including at least four people on the Genes Reunited website, which I'm not subscribed to just now so can't follow up).

Regards,
Steve Lord
Auckland New Zealand
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Re: Re Graham family - Askrigg (Swaledale) area
« Reply #23 on: Monday 21 September 09 10:47 UTC (UK) »

Steve,

I also no longer subscribe to genesrenited.  I will send you information of what I have soon.  I shoudl point out that the information I have is from groups like this one, ancestry, Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dalesfhs/ and familysearch.org.  Familysearch has thrown up a few Grahams from Askrigg and Dent. 

Phil
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